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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kalonji: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE]YOU singled out Abrahamic religions specifically [/QUOTE]Yes, because they are lower than dog shyt[/qb][/QUOTE]You dumbass, I ask you what is unique about Abrahamic religions specifically in that subjects are supposed to view others as not on par with themselves, and you respond with another emotional value judgment. Do you even understand the question, LOL [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE]which traditional African religion (for want of a better term) sees other African religions as evil[/qb][/QUOTE]This is another emotional value judgment in response to a request for hard objective data. To answer your irrelevant question, no Abrahamic religion targets African religions, which is exactly why your dumbass can’t view subjects who subscribe to Abrahamic religions as self hating people. The denouncing of what they call ‘’pagan’’ is not personal and African specific at all. How old are you? Are you really that dumb? [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE] Exactly, so then why is there a distinction between Arab Africans and muslim Africans, What separates the two if not perceived racial identifty [/QUOTE]the war between north and south in Sudan [/qb][/QUOTE]You’re not answering the question you idiot, Arab identity transcends Sudan and occurs in many places in Africa. The point of contention is African Arab self hate vs Christian self hate, not the war in Sudan specifically. WHY IS THERE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN ‘’ÁRAB’’ AFRICANS AND MUSLIM AFRICANS?? IF THE FORMER SELF IDENTIFICATION SIMPLY CONSTITUTES MUSLIM CULTURE?? [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE] If you use Basirs damage control piece to refute that he is racist, you must also face the fact that he also refuted that he had anti African sentiments. This whole perception about his character comes as a package from the Western media and humanitarian outlets, so if the former (racist) is propaganda, the latter (Anti African) is propaganda as well. If the latter is propaganda, it conflicts with your other assertion, which is that he is anti African because of his Abrahamic religion.[/QUOTE]I see nothing to convince me that he "hates" black people because they are black, i.e. a racist.[/qb][/QUOTE]Red herring. The piece you’re responding to contained a specific point that you keep running away from, ie either African Arab/Basir anti African sentiment doesn’t exist and reflects Western propaganda, or it does exist and is the result of Abrahamic faiths. Which one is it? [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE] I asked you, is there or is there not racism involved in the Darfur conflict?[/QUOTE]No [/qb][/QUOTE]No? It wasn’t you who wrote the following? [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [/QUOTE]blacks (the Janjaweed are blacks) cursing other blacks because of color and wanting "light babies", this is certainly not unique to Arab Africans[/qb][/QUOTE][QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE]What is going in Sudan is groups of Africans denouncing being related to Africans and identifying with Arabs, even using Arab slurs. Do you agree with this, yes or no?[/QUOTE]Dude, the fuking janjaweed are black[/qb][/QUOTE]Answer the phucking question you nut, lol. [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE] the Protestants didn’t become a new structure that deviated from the Roman Catholic structure? [/QUOTE]They dont start out as structures[/qb][/QUOTE]LOL, your ass disagreed about the existence of multiple structures and each having their own interpretation, so you could inflate the percentage of self hating Africans via your erroneous uniform Christianity. That deviating leaders don’t immediately start out as new structures, but eventually do so is STILL opposing to your uniform Christianity wherein EVERYONE has anti African sentiments. The very fact that these deviating structures emerged, and still are emerging makes your theory about imaginary demands from texts (first position) and/or by external uniform policing agents (saving face position) by definition invalid. [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE] We can all conclude that you haven’t given one objective marker of systematic self hate that characterizes African Christians.[/QUOTE]Weve been through this: white god and seeing African religions as devil worship[/qb][/QUOTE]No Abrahamic religion sees African religions specifically as devil worship. You’re just saying this so you can use it as an argument to strengthen your ideas about the self hate that Abrahamic religions require from Africans. The fact is that they see [b]all[/b] pagan religions as devil worship, not just African religions. This has nothing to do with Abrahamic anti Africanity, and thus, no African can be argued to be conflicted internally by mere adherence to Abrahamic faiths alone, just like no Roman can be called self hating because of denouncing Zeus worship. [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb][QUOTE]Did I not say that as humans we have free will and there are black conscious Christian and Muslims outthere?[/qb][/QUOTE]And you tried to save face immediately afterwards by shifting from literary demands to institutional demands. The fact is that none of these demands emanate from Abrahamic religions, which renders your arguments incapable for use as proof of anti African sentiment. Modern urban life can be every bit as detrimental to the preservation of indigenous global cultures. I don’t see you posing negative connotations upon Africans who migrate to urban centers to assimilate, in fact you're living in one right now. The effect is essentially the same. There is an immediate and necessary tradeoff whenever indigenous people assimilate into modern Urban centers, drenched with fundamentally non African, Western ideas. Why restrict your assessment of self hate to West Asian religious imports and not to other facets of life that compromise African identity? Is that where your emotional hatred for Semites comes into play? [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE]I see you still trying to push the Menelik shyt. LOLOLOL [/qb][/QUOTE]I see your ass still aint answered my question: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kalonji: [qb] [i]How does Ethiopian royalty claiming to be descendants of Menelik compare with African ‘’Arabs’’ who see themselves as wholesale immigrants from Arabia? Pray tell. Is it accompanied with the aggravated dynamics we see in Sudanese Arabs for you to bring them up as an example of equal self hate in both Christians and people who self identify as descendants of Arabs?[/i] [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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