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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [qb] Yes, besides the book you posted only Robert Bianchi's book on the Nubians. "Daily life of the Nubians" mentions the Nubian Rock Cut tomb architecture and how the Egyptian Speo style was first used by A Group Nubians and then brought to Egypt during the 12th Dynasty(a Dynasty linked to A Group via Ta Seti). Even the Sites dealing with Nubia makes no mention of this. Honestly modern Egyptology is still stuck in the 19th and 20th century. The only thing is instead now they advocate the Egyptians as defined by the Delta Egyptians created Egypt. Any Mention of Southern Influence is made Via Anthropology or Genetics/Biologists.[/qb][/QUOTE]You're right. It seems every data that shows Egypt's southerly origins and connections come from other areas of anthropology particularly bio-anthropology. Predynastic Egyptology does touch on the subject but that's it. When it comes to the study of dynastic times there is hardly any mention of Nubian influence or connections other than that of the all too cliched 25th dynasty. This is in contrast to earlier anthropolgy from the 20th and 19th century which was more open to Sudanese or Nilotic influence. Again, I think due to all the evidence supporting the so-called 'Afrocentric' claims, Egyptology seems to compensate by being silent on this. [QUOTE][qb] I mean Zahi Hiwass is a perfect example. His remark that the Egyptians were not Africans only proves his Ignorance on the Bio/Anthro origins of Egypt and his knee Jerk remark that they were not black based on their "Lips" and other features is obsurd. I honestly don't see how anyone should be suprised, Egyptology is nothing but Western Think Tank to propose the Dynastic Race theory under more subtle tactics. [/qb][/QUOTE]CORRECTION! Zahi Hawass acknowledges the Egyptians as African just not as "negro". Remember his comments from that BBC special on Africa. He and his ilk seem to cling to the concept of "North African cockasian" vs. "Sub-Saharan kneegrow" the same way posters like 'Rahotep' do today. In their minds Egypt is unique and is not to be associated with either Asia or Sub-Sahara. [QUOTE][qb] and lets be clear, Zahi, Bob Brier and the others are not stupid. The same stuff we read they have read. Alot of what I posted on the Southern Origins of the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 12th, and 18th plus other Dynasties come from books that most Egyptology studies would read such as "Chronicle of the Pharoahs" and books by Petrie etc. These people have seen the Images from the Tombs of the Nobles and others, these people are not stupid. Zahi knows damn well Egyptian Culture came from the South and he knows how Important the South was viewed and Held in Dynastic times, yet to keep his European and American Tourists satisfied he will claim the Egyptians are not Africans. If anything these people know MORE about Egypt's African Affinity more than we do. [/qb][/QUOTE][b]LOL[/b] I can't help but think the same also. Again despite the racism of the 19th and 20th centuries, all the findings and conclusions all point to southern origins albeit with debunked labels of "Euafrican", "Hamitic", or "dark Mediterranean". Not all Egyptologists are in denial. I mean Egyptologists like Donald Redford, Michael Rice, Ahmed Saleh and several others are not as deceitful. Even Egyptologists like Ian Shaw and Toby Wilkinson do so albeit in a circumlocution manner when they focus on western and eastern deserts. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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