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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [qb] Great find, the Tehenu photo from Sahure! Only have seen etchings up to now! This no doubt is one of the color images behind Bates' declaration "the Libyan in earlier Egyptian art is regularly a [i]brun[/i],". More please. According to Bates the few ethnic names surviving from Old Kingdom to classical time make Berber an unknown until then. He did however draw up a list of just 18 primitive Berber root words paralleled in Egyptian. We need a currently composed comparative vocabulary list for certainty about borrowings or even words shared throughout their parent super-phylum. This map from Kay Williams' article [i]Western African Languages in Historical Perspective[/i] doesn't propose Berber in Tehenu Libya until ~2000 BCE and calls it North Temehu Berber. [IMG]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1448/westboundprotoafrisans.jpg[/IMG] So no positive evidence for pre-dynastic western delta and adjacent populations nor Old and Middle Kingdom Tehenu speaking Berber until overrun by Meshwesh in the 19th Dynasty. The Temehu may be a different story if they indeed are the people implied by Harkhuf's "land of Temeh." Otherwise Tamehu arise later in the New Kingdom. I have come to doubt Tamahu being a specific ethny and think it a New Kingdom generic for any and all Libyan peoples from 20th Dynasty times onward. [/qb][/QUOTE]Is not the name 'Temehu' of Berber origin? I have noticed that the word 'Tama' is a common prefix among names of Amazigh (Berber) peoples; for example the Kel Tamashek of the Tuareg. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes - Tamashek is related to the word Mashek or Mazikes of the Roman era a name originally for one of the Berber branches. It has been adopted by other Berber-speaking peoples in the last 100 years; since the colonial era. Maazawazaou (or Meshwesh) sounds like a modern Tuareg first name though. I found this little interested tidbit below with the Karrayu Oromo warriors of Ethiopia wearing the Temehu hairstyle with feathers. Thought it was just Beja that did this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF4qq-juoQ4&feature=channel_video_title Notice at 1:50, 3:03 in the video the Temehou look with Libyan feathers. [IMG]http://i55.tinypic.com/f1eby9.jpg[/IMG] Here is the Libyan supposed to be represented by the cartoonish rendition Lyin A__ continuously posts. [IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/2en9u79.jpg[/IMG] artists rendition of Temehou wall relief As a little diddy for kids goes here in the U.S. "one of these things is not like the other one of these things just doesn't belong can you tell which one is not like the other before I finish my ..." [IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/14vgpyf.jpg[/IMG] Another photo the lyin a__ posts which she thinks is proof Libyans were more like hairsute Middle Easterners. [IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/1zmhtlv.jpg[/IMG] Faded painting probably meant to be a full blooded Fulani with his distinctly Fulani (i.e. Libyan) hairstyle [IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/2wc38fr.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i55.tinypic.com/1z2n0pj.jpg[/IMG] A European copyist's rendition of ancient Temehou wearing tiny cornrow plaits no where to be found in Egyptian painting? [IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/20r4k20.jpg[/IMG] But since they want to be picky and go there... Tuareg mulatto who could be a descendant of the directly above. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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