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[QUOTE]Originally posted by astenb: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by KoKaKoLa: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundjata: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by KoKaKoLa: Also.. Tuaregs (descendants of the Lybians) shows affinities with the Beja..via mtDNA.. funny no? [/QUOTE]Ignoring your West Africa bashing, this seems to be an astute observation, actually. Tishkoff's data on autosomal gene frequencies also associate the Kel Tamasheq with the Beja. Using them as a proxy to estimate ancient Egyptian variation (especially in the south, as they would have been sandwiched in between these two ancestral populations), therefore seems quite intuitive. Difficulty will rest however, on establishing what the baseline variation was and how much the two populations differ from their ancestors (that the modern and ancient variation in Egypt is similar, but qualitatively different, is a given). [/qb][/QUOTE]Of course this is simply reciting ''common knowledge''. The troll is mistaking posters on the forum for being idiots, and I think its a shame you don't see through that. This observation has been discussed many times on ES, even way before I even was a member. Researchers other than Tishkoff have noted this relationship as well. I find it funny that this KokaKola character wants to inform ES posters of the fact that King Tut wasn't a West African, and that it is ''funny'' or ''remarkable'' that Tuareg and Beja are closely related. [/qb][/QUOTE]Excuse me ? You are the one trying to stick an entire population with a group of people they are not related. scientifical evidences clearly show that the Ancient Egyptians were CLEARLY NOT of west african origin since that _Modern Egyptians dont cluster with West Africans _There is no migration between Africa and Northesatern africa (minus the Sahelian populations like the Fulani, Baggara, Hausa..) Also, the phenotype of the AE is common in West Africa Finally, the culture of the Ancient Egyptian is related to the culture of the Cushitic speakers in East Africa. [/qb][/QUOTE]Your entire argument is somewhat nonsense. On one hand argue that migration from West Africa to Egypt or vis-versa had to happen during Dynastic times for it to "count". [QUOTE] And the PN2 clade is from the Paleolithic , unless the Ancient Egyptian civilization was built in this period [/QUOTE]Then you talk about the connection of Beja and Egypt but at a time that Egyptian civilization did not exist and during a time probably prior to the existence of Beja as an identity, Beja language, or possible even the entire Cushitic phylum. That is called a double standard. You are saying migration from Egypt to West and Africa somehow does not count but migration from Egypt to Beja type people does count even though BOTH migrations occurred long prior to Egyptian civilization. :rolleyes: Furthermore you continue with the Euro strawman arguing that Egyptians didn't come from West Africa. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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