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Is Kmtian wavy and straight hair the only trait not shared with Ancient Nubians?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [qb] [b]Nubians are commonly depicted as anything BUT straight/wavy haired, by both ancient Ethnographers, and Egyptian artwork, there is an obvious incongruence there.[/b] I am not so sure. I understand what you say about some artworks, but then again, many Egyptians depicted in artworks are not depicted with their natural hair, but in wigs. Hence some might say, we don't have an apples to apples, or in this case, a hair for hair comparison- natural to natural of Egyptians versus Nubians. COmplicating the picture is the fact that the Nubians themselves also wore wigs, and indeed the "Nubian wig" worn by hard-fighting Nubian mercenaries became a fashion statement for some Egyptians per Fletcher above. We have studies like that of Strouhal, but again, Strouhal was using a rigid racial formula, lumping everything that did not meet an extreme stereotype as "Caucasoid" or "Mixed." Other hair studies like that of Strohual's Czech colleagues use mostly later period dynastic samples, cutting out a huge 2000 year old swath of prior history, and then still use the stereotypical formula -- all not "true negro" goes into the "mixed" or "Caucasoid" column. This stereotypical formula is never applied to whites in reverse. ALso given the clear "Sudanic" influences in Southern Egypt from the very beginning, people with kinky hair are part and parcel of native Egyptian diversity, just like people with jet black skin have ALWAYS been part of NATIVE Egypt and are not foreign. In other words, just as Nubians themselves varied, so did Egyptians vary, natively, between a range of kinky to straight hair. Furthermore, wavy hair or straighter, looser hair, as has been noted elsewhere, even if it did depend on gene flow, does not necessarily mean gene flow from OUTSIDE Africa. Gene flow for example from the Horn or East Africa (as shown in the 2004 Gurna study) or ancient Sahara could well have added variation to the hair mix. But even in this case, the inflowing mix is from WITHIN indigenous tropical Africa, not outside from EUropeans or "Middle Easterners." Too often some folks (I do not mean you of course) seem to think that "gene flow" means outside Africa. Not necessarily. Could it not then be thus said that there is nothing unusual or out of the ordinary at all about Egyptian hair- it is just another routine African pattern of variation? How do you see the possibility of BOTH Nubian and Egyptian hair being variable as part of an indigenous range? [b]The thing that was inconsistent was the portrayal of the hair forms of Northern Sudanese groups, as the data in the OP's shows.[/b] ^^I agree and raise the possibility for the flip side also- that the portrayal of Egyptian hair may not be fully accurate since the Egyptians used wigs heavily, often with hair purchased or obtained from a wide variety of sources. Egyptians portrayed themselves as they wanted to portray themselves- with wigs- not their natural "dos".. [/qb][/QUOTE]Ok [/QB][/QUOTE]
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