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Is Kmtian wavy and straight hair the only trait not shared with Ancient Nubians?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by lamin: [qb] It escapes most people that geographical labeling derives from constructions whether arbitrary or not. But such labeling cannot work for purportedly scientific anthropology. Humans have traveled to all parts of the globe in search of habitat territory, tracking hunt animals, escaping from droughts, etc. Naive readers are often put off by claims that population X has genomic inputs not only from region X but also from region Y, without recognising that region Y is but a geographical continuation of region X. The point is that when humans migrate their evolutionary status is determined not by some arbitrarily imposed geographical boundary condition but by more meaningful considerations such as bottlenecks, founder effects, genetic drift, assorted mating[as in the case of close-kin matings, etc.]. Most of the above variables are determined by ease of movement--as in whether movement is restricted by terrain such as mountains, water(seas, oceans, rivers, etc.), forests, deserts, extreme cold, etc. Thus, in this context terms like "African", "non-African", "Eurasian", "Asian", "sub-Saharan", etc. really don't make sense. The optimal analysis should be conducted purely in terms of genomic structures determined by sex and autosomal chromosome analysis. Eurocentric analysis is a major offender in this regard. [/qb][/QUOTE]This is precisely the point I have been consistently making time and again, lamin! What exactly separates 'Eurasian' from 'African' especially going back to the [i]first[/i] Eurasians who were essentially African colonists. According to the Euronuts once it is outside the African continent, even if it is right next door to the continent like Arabia and the Levant, it is no longer 'African'. This all stems from the same desperate Eurocentric and I dare say racist intent to divorce one's ancestors from Africans! This is why we get all this talk of 'back-migrations' and genetic influence of Eurasians on Africans, even if such was the result of folks right next door to Africa. We see this a lot with the data on mitochondrial (maternal) lineages in Africa said to be Eurasian. Which is why Keita provided the following caveat. [i] The issue of how much Paleolithic migration from the Near East there may have been is intriguing, and the mitochondrial DNA variation may need to be reassessed as to what can be considered to be only of "Eurasian origin" because if hunters and gatherers roamed between the Saharan and supra-Saharan regions and Eurasia it might be difficult to determine exactly "where" a mutation arose.[/i]-- Keita, [i]In Hot Pursuit of Language in Prehistory[/i] ed. John Benjamins. (2008) A perfect analogy would be the people of the British Isles who are of course derived from mainland Europeans. Whatever genetic difference arose among the people of the Isles would then make them 'different' constitute them as a whole from other Europeans and whatever back-migrations these British took to the mainland would be viewed as 'British genetic influence on Europeans'. [b]LOL[/b] [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/British_Isles_location.svg/240px-British_Isles_location.svg.png[/IMG] But now this drive to divorce the early Eurasians from their African brethren has gotten worse and delves into the depths of insanity. Recall Swenet's thread on [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=008440]new aDNA findings[/URL] by Fu et al. (2013) which states that the division between 'Eurasians' and Africans first occurred IN Africa [i]before[/i] the OOA event! [b]LMAO[/b] :D This issue of African vs. Eurasian is another topic in its own right which deserves a thread of its own. In the meantime I want to discuss the topic of THIS thread which is the wavy hair of some Kemetians and Nubians. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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