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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] ^ Yes we all know it was a convention but based on what? Robins speculates that it could be due to women staying indoors yet as Ausar has stated many times according to all the archaeological evidence, including artwork as well, women are shown working outdoors alongside men. Women perform agricultural work outside, they prepare food outside, and they sell their goods in the marketplace-- all activities no different from women in modern Sub-Saharan Africa. Even the elite women who can afford to spend their leisure indoors are also shown accompanying their men outdoors in recreational activities. What's more that even images of poor farmers working outside, the women are [i]still[/i] painted yellowish! So obviously the whole seclusion indoors argument falls apart. [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lyinass b|tch: [qb] This is not proof of anything, just speculation of an author. It is also a non-sequitor.[/qb][/QUOTE]The only speculation is as to [i]why[/i] the convention is applied. Her point was that such a color disparity between the sexes was indeed a convention and NOT a realistic feature. [QUOTE][qb]Gay Robbins says that skin color was not uniform in ancient Egypt and that skin tones were lighter in the North than in the South. (so much for your "paint faded" applied to any situation)[/qb][/QUOTE]Yes and the difference in complexions is rooted in facts that even the late Egyptologist Frank Yurco agreed. Such a phenomena is not confined to Egypt either. In Europe for example, northern Italians are fairer in both complexion and features than southern Italians, the same can be said for people in China etc. Robins' point was merely that the color convention for females applied throughout the nation even if it did not reflect reality. I don't know what any of this has to do with the equally factual point of paint-faded artwork! Artwork in the south depicting very dark-skinned men could be just as faded [QUOTE][qb]Males and females are only sometimes of different color in the art and there are plenty of instances where they are the same.[/qb][/QUOTE]Which only supports the conjecture that the yellow female convention was symbolic rather than realistic. [QUOTE][qb]So in the instances in the art where a female is shown lighter than a male a more common sense explanation is that the female from a Northern Egyptian background while the male is from Southern Egyptian background. That's the more logical explanation.[/qb][/QUOTE]No dumb twit! Robins' point was that it didn't matter what the actual color of a female was-- in fact the example she presented was of a darker female from the south being portrayed with a lighter male from the north!! The result was the same in that if the convention was applied she would still be depicted yellowish! It is THIS that is the most logical explanation! [QUOTE][qb]And not to be confused with a different situation below where a yellow skin color really is symbolic: [IMG]http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/files/2009/05/nefertari-and-isis.jpg[/IMG] ^^^^^ Here we have Nefertari and Isis. Nefertari a real person is pictured much darker than Isis. Isis is painted an unatural yellow color. It's not like a real person who might have a tan yellow color. This color is too yellow. It's symbolic for golden skin of some Gods. Nefertari is not yellow here so you can't say yellow is sybmbolic for females.[/qb][/QUOTE][b]LOL[/b] You are obviously too [i]stupid[/i] to realize that the situation is the SAME! The yellow color IS symbolic and it is applied to women when depicted with [i]men[/i]. However in the case you just described Nefertari above is not depicted with a man but rather with a [i]goddess[/i], hence the deity is symbolized in color!! [QUOTE][qb]Some people get this confused with the below situation a portrait of two real people, Rahotep and Nofret: [IMG]http://www.gks.uk.com/images/ancient-egypt-flesh.jpg[/IMG] The simple explantion is contained in the first part of Gay Robbins remark: [i] Male and female skin colors were probably not uniform among the entire population of Egypt, [b]with pigmentation being darker in the south[/b] [closer to sub-saharan Africans] [b]and lighter in the north[/b] [closer to Mediterranean Near Easterners] [/b][ Gay Robbins[/i] there is nothing unusual about two ancient Egyptians from different regions in Egypt getting marrried. [/qb][/QUOTE][b]LOL[/b] @ your pathetic attempt to distort Robins now! The point she makes is that the yellow color truly is a convention based on something symbolic NOT that all yellowish women are from northern Egypt you twit!! Why is it then that even northern Egyptian men are not yellow either but brown in color, you dumb lying worm?! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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