posted Harvesting Figs, Tomb of Khnemhotep. period of Amenemes II or Sesostris II, 12th dynasty .
Tomb of Nahkt, 18th dyn
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WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?
Are they indigenous Egypytians? What is the expalanation for the hair color?
beyoku Member # 14524
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What are your retarded? Have your ever seen any Egyptian painting in person at a museum?
the lioness Member # 17353
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quote:Originally posted by beyoku: What are your retarded? Have your ever seen any Egyptian painting in person at a museum?
yes I have asshole If a person were to see these painting in a museum it would make no difference whatsover. What is the explanation for the hair color buttwipe?
mena7 Member # 20555
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Those people are Egyptian farmers harvesting figs, wheast and grapes .Some Egyptian that worshiped the God Set/Sata/Satan paint their hair red to symbolise the sunset(Acharya s).My guess is they will paint their hair yellow or gold to symbolise the sun.Maybe thats the reason there are black skin mummy with red hair and blond hair .Ancent Egypt was like Nigeria, Sudan and Ethiopia .A multi ethnic country with different skin tone, different phenotype, different morphology, different languages .Ancient Egypt was the golden age of Africa .
beyoku Member # 14524
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by beyoku: What are your retarded? Have your ever seen any Egyptian painting in person at a museum?
yes I have asshole If a person were to see these painting in a museum it would make no difference whatsover. What is the explanation for the hair color buttwipe?
YOu couldn't have, prove it....prove you are black while you at it. The fist thing anyone that has seen Ancient Egyptian paintings in person will notice that the paint is no longer like paint. After 1000's of years it has become a thin film that flakes and chips very easily. In some cases it even looks like a thin layer of colored dust or powdered chalk that has beaded up around the edges, particularly on the paintings on stone. That said the difference you see on the head is just the layer of black paint on top of a layer of brown paint......BOTH of which have dissipated over 1000's of years. Anyone with a functioning brain can see the men picking Wheat are not grey haired old guys but the hair was originally Black and the it has seem been damaged. The kneeling guy gathering figs, no he doea NOT have a big patch of grey hair in his head. As for the kids gathering grapes, The kid is not grey haired. THe original color of the hair is Black and it can be clearly seen. YOu are making an issue of artwork where no issue exists.
Badumtish Member # 20669
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What? It's patently obvious that their real hair colour is black.
In the first one you can see the leftmost person's hair fading to the same colour as the background of the image, which is also happening to the person on the right (but you can still see that person's natural black hair colour)
In the second one you can see that the area where their hair is supposed to be is grey, which is the same colour as the background to the whole image. The paint has chipped off. In any case, you can clearly see the remnants of the second person's proper hair colour, which is black.
In the third one there is clear fading on the leftmost person and you can see the rightmost person's hair fading to the same colour. You can see the left person's scalp outline and the blackness of the tips of his hair. How many people have natural blonde hair and black eyebrows? To make it clearer, I made an image:
The red bit is his scalp outline.
Djehuti Member # 6698
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^ Correct. Anyone with eyes can see that the so-called light hair color is nothing more than faded or eroded paint! Even the grape clusters near the guy's head are faded.
quote: Harvesting Figs, Tomb of Khnemhotep. period of Amenemes II or Sesostris II, 12th dynasty
Note that the fig picker on the left has his entire hair faded whereas the picker on the right has a large part of the head and even face faded.
quote: Tomb of Nahkt, 18th dyn
Note that the faded heads have the exact same coloring as the wall itself without the white paint in the background as that too is fading.
LMAO It's hilarious to see how the lyinass twit is grasping for anything in the dark! She tries to make faded paint of the head and scalp as "light colored hair" and thus 'foreigners'!!
I noticed my initial post in this thread as well as Zarahan's was deleted. NOTE TO MODERATORS: This entire idiotic thread should be deleted! LOL
the lioness Member # 17353
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We have two figures under the same comnditions. This is not a case of faded paint
1)The paint on one figure is not going fade while the other person's hair remains quite black.That makes no sense at all that the same pigment would fade in one area only. And there is no evidence of "chipping" which is not thes same as fading.
2) This painting is in fairly good condition. The black hair on the right figure is slightly faded but black and brown areas in this painting and the color in general is preserved well and has good saturation. To say both individuals originally had black hair and that the black pigment in the same painting decided to fade just in the hair area of one of the people is not believable at all.
3) An obvious point that many people are not mentioning is that differences in the hair color between these two figures is not surprising in light of the fact that each of their hair shapes are completely different.
________________^^^^ As we can see the hair color has been painted on top of what was once the complete brown bald head. Therefore is the paint was faded from the hair color what would be showing is nothing less dark than the brown color of the skin underneath the hair. This means a lighter color was painted on top. This is why you can see the skull shape transparently under the hair. That means the head was painted completely brown and bald before the hair was painted on top. There are two shades of gray used in the hair. A lighter gray color and some darker grey steaks, perhaps intended to show strands. The hair is not a typical yellowish blond color.
same thing here the hair is grayish
The people seem to be too young to have naturally gray hair.
My theory is that they may have colored their hair with white pigment.
____________________________________^^^^ but then we go back to this one and there is that issue with the long straight strands which are unlike bulbous shapes of the black haired figure. Either the person with the lighter colored hair a) had straight hair, b) had afro hair that was styled straight c) or is wearing a straight haired wig
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Men Kheper Ra Member # 4547
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Either which way it goes - there is black colors throughout the hair ... I would assume that these drawing are of aging people ... if anything else ...
lamin Member # 5777
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Obviously gray-haired guys--one of them even has a slight paunch--doing some field work. People can gray from 35 years onwards. No big deal because their faces--prognathism and all--are African.
Badumtish Member # 20669
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
We have two figures under the same comnditions. This is not a case of faded paint
1)The paint on one figure is not going fade while the other person's hair remains quite black.That makes no sense at all that the same pigment would fade in one area only.
You're making an unfair comparison. The left person's hair was painted in a single, slender stroke, whilst the right person's was painted in small circles or was dotted. Obviously, rotating a brush around a single point/repeatedly pressing down on an area will cause the paint to accumulate there and become considerably more resistant to erosion than paint that was applied via a single, slender stroke.
In the area immediately behind the right person's eye you can see how the paint is thicker.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: And there is no evidence of "chipping" which is not thes same as fading.
When I said 'the second one' I meant the second image.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: 2) This painting is in fairly good condition. The black hair on the right figure is slightly faded but black and brown areas in this painting and the color in general is preserved well and has good saturation. To say both individuals originally had black hair and that the black pigment in the same painting decided to fade just in the hair area of one of the people is not believable at all.
That's because some colours fade faster than others from UV exposure based on the pigments and bases used in them. Why would somebody paint the scalp brown and then overlay it with a lighter colour? When you are painting your house, you make a base colour of white because it is the lightest colour possible and it won't show through when you apply the proper colour to your walls. You don't initially use a foundation of green if you want to paint your walls cream, for example, because the green will show through the cream.
Hence, it is clear that the person's brown scalp was painted because it would be covered with the black paint for his hair.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: 3) An obvious point that many people are not mentioning is that differences in the hair color between these two figures is not surprising in light of the fact that each of their hair shapes are completely different.
Dreadlocks? Plaits? Ever heard of hair styles?
quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
________________^^^^ As we can see the hair color has been painted on top of what was once the complete brown bald head. Therefore is the paint was faded from the hair color what would be showing is nothing less dark than the brown color of the skin underneath the hair. This means a lighter color was painted on top. This is why you can see the skull shape transparently under the hair. That means the head was painted completely brown and bald before the hair was painted on top. There are two shades of gray used in the hair. A lighter gray color and some darker grey steaks, perhaps intended to show strands. The hair is not a typical yellowish blond color.
Not necessarily. The black paint would have interacted with the brown one, which has the combined effect of lightening the whole thing.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: same thing here the hair is grayish
The people seem to be too young to have naturally gray hair.
You can see the hair of the person on the right having similar shades in some parts to the person on the left. The right person's hair is black, so it is reasonable to assume the similar shades are because the person on the left also once had black hair.
quote:Originally posted by the lioness: My theory is that they may have colored their hair with white pigment.
____________________________________^^^^ but then we go back to this one and there is that issue with the long straight strands which are unlike bulbous shapes of the black haired figure. Either the person with the lighter colored hair a) had straight hair, b) had afro hair that was styled straight c) or is wearing a straight haired wig
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As I said above, it was probably styled.
xyyman Member # 13597
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Liar(ness)', knows this......he/they are drumming up traffic. Remember they are being paid for this. They are not that dumb.!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: ^ Correct. Anyone with eyes can see that the so-called light hair color is nothing more than faded or eroded paint! Even the grape clusters near the guy's head are faded.
quote: Harvesting Figs, Tomb of Khnemhotep. period of Amenemes II or Sesostris II, 12th dynasty
Note that the fig picker on the left has his entire hair faded whereas the picker on the right has a large part of the head and even face faded.
quote: Tomb of Nahkt, 18th dyn
Note that the faded heads have the exact same coloring as the wall itself without the white paint in the background as that too is fading.
LMAO It's hilarious to see how the lyinass twit is grasping for anything in the dark! She tries to make faded paint of the head and scalp as "light colored hair" and thus 'foreigners'!!
I noticed my initial post in this thread as well as Zarahan's was deleted. NOTE TO MODERATORS: This entire idiotic thread should be deleted! LOL
Djehuti Member # 6698
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^ Xyz is correct for a change. My explanation that the paint is eroded or peeled off makes perfect sense since again such paint erosion can be seen on other parts of the mural such as the grapes right next to the head of the grape picker or the case of sections of the fig tree including baboons having peeled or eroded off.
The nonsense that they are really foreigners or have gray hair from age is just more desperation from the lyinass. As I said, even Egyptologists and ancient Egyptians art experts have NEVER questioned or speculated anything else but paint erosion.
xyyman Member # 13597
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You know that I think you are a suspicious character. Just letting you know. Maybe even a fraud.
the lioness Member # 17353
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quote:Originally posted by Badumtish: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: [qb]
these may have been slaves
zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova Member # 15718
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DJeuti says: I noticed my initial post in this thread as well as Zarahan's was deleted. NOTE TO MODERATORS: This entire idiotic thread should be deleted! LOL [Big Grin
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It's hilarious to see how the lyinass twit is grasping for anything in the dark! She tries to make faded paint of the head and scalp as "light colored hair" and thus 'foreigners'!!
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