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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by rainingburntice: [qb] Citations? -Swenet Hey I'm just saying don't speak too soon they haven't typed his mtDNA yet and you won't want to be dumbfounded if it does turn up Middle Eastern, because whether you like it or not there was significant gene flow from the Middle East into Africa during the Upper Palaeolithic and Mesolithic and there was also moderate gene flow during the Neolithic. So why be so biased? Keep an open mind about it. The frequency of Middle Eastern mtDNA in Egypt wouldn't be so high unless it was there in ancient Egypt the same goes for Y Hg E. By the way it is also possible that Setnakhte, founder of the 20th Dynasty, was an usurper. Citations? You know this is common knowledge. [/qb][/QUOTE]I don't give squat about Ramses III's mtDNA, or even his Y chromosome, for that matter. This is all a peek into the genetics of the (early) Ancient Egyptian population. That's what I'm really after. Not necessarily the genetics of some king from a dying era, whom I don't even particularly admire. I leave that to you Euronuts who want to feel validated by being under the illusion that specific kings from other continents have a connection to you. As far as the date of entry of these Eurasian lineages, I don't know anything about what you profess is ''common knowledge''. By avoiding the issue, I'll just take it to mean that you were just referring to imaginary data when you said [i]''Egyptians aren't much different than the ancient population with historic migrations only contributing to no more than 10% of the lineages''[/i]. In the meantime, what I DO know, is this: [QUOTE][i]Haplogroups A, B, and E occur mainly in Nilo-Saharan speaking groups including Nilotics, Fur, Borgu, and Masalit; whereas haplogroups F, I, J, K, and R are more frequent among Afro-Asiatic speaking groups including Arabs, Beja, Copts, and Hausa, and Niger-Congo speakers from the Fulani ethnic group. Mantel tests reveal a strong correlation between genetic and linguistic structures (r =0.31,P = 0.007), and a similar correlationbetween genetic and geographic distances (r = 0.29, P = 0.025) that appears after removing nomadic pastoralists of no known geographic locality from the analysis. [b]The bulk of genetic diversity appears to be a consequence of recent migrations and demographic events mainly from Asia and Europe,[/b] evident in a higher migration rate for speakers of Afro-Asiatic as compared with the Nilo-Saharan family of languages, and a generally higher effective population size for the former.[/i][/QUOTE]--Hassan et al, 2008 And what I also know is this: [QUOTE][i]Haplogroups A-M13 was found at high frequencies among Neolithic samples. [b]Haplogroup F-M89[/b] and YAP [b]appeared to be more frequent among Meroitic, Post-Meroitic and Christian periods.[/b] Haplogroup B-M60 was not observed in the sample analyzed.[/i][/QUOTE]The finding of Yap, and particularly, F-M89, in late dynastic Kushite aDNA fits nicely with what you're about to read below, since we know markers within both parahaplogroups, when found in tandem in Nilo-Saharan speakers, hint at admixture with Semetic and/or Cushitic speakers (also see the excerpt from Hassan 2008 above), just like how the latter two populations were the intermediaries for F-M89 haplogroups in Omotic speakers: [QUOTE][i]The non-African component, which includes the SLC24A5 allele associated with light skin pigmentation in Europeans, may represent gene flow into Africa, [b]which we estimate to have occurred ~3 thousand years ago (kya).[/b][/i][/QUOTE]--Pagani et al, 2012 What were you saying again, about some sort of a consensus among Anthropologists, regarding the early date of entry for most Eurasian lineages in the Nile Valley? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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