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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Truthcentric: [qb] For me, the real issue is not whether or not people have moved between Africa and geographically adjacent areas throughout the Upper Paleolithic and after. The real issue is whether the back-migrants you invoke resembled or had any genetic affinity to your ideal "Mediterranean Caucasians". Since discussions like this ultimately certain around phenotype, it doesn't suffice for you to mention back-migrations into Africa. You need to show that these back-migrations involved Caucasian-looking people. I notice that your kind insist on Caucasians swamping the Nile Valley from Eurasia in the mists of prehistory, but don't show nearly the same enthusiasm for recorded historical migrations in the same direction. I for one would wager that the type of mass migration needed to demographically dominate any area would require technology and numbers not available in prehistoric times. Ergo, historically documented migrations make more sense than your hypothetical Cro-Magnon Caucasian conquerors. [/qb][/QUOTE]The irony is that there are Sub-Saharans who carry 'Eurasian' type clades that are not recent but date from the early epochs you mentioned, yet the Euronuts are not in any rush to 'claim' these people. A perfect example would be West and Central Africans who carry y-chromosomal hg R. These individuals look no different from other members of their groups or neighbors who don't carry R in that they are stereotypically [b]negroid[/b]! Yet they carry R lineages associated with Eurasians even though some of them carry downstream markers not found in Europe and it turns out Cameroonians show a high frequency of underived R1*. I also find it interesting that R1 itself dates to around the same time that mt hg U6 arose where it is found today predominantly in northwest Africa. So either these clades are not Eurasian OR they arose in Eurasians who didn't look any different from the Africans who never left the continent when they back-migrated to Africa. I tell the Euronuts to pick their poison. :o [QUOTE][qb] Actually I don't think the people we routinely call "Euronuts" all want Egyptians to look European. Most of them are content with a "Semitic" or Southwest Asian identity for Kemet. What they really care about is dissociating Egypt from so-called "True Negro" sub-Saharan Africans. As long as the establishment links Egypt to anyone other than black people, our opponents are content.[/qb][/QUOTE]Correct. 'Caucasian' for the Euronuts is not limited to European alone, unlike their hypocrisy and double-think that 'Negro' [i]is[/i] limited to Africa and 'Sub-Saharan' Africa to be exact! [QUOTE][qb]Honestly, I still don't know why people are still hostile to the idea of a Black African Egypt. Even the guys who acknowledge (geographically) sub-Saharan civilizations like Great Zimbabwe or Mali draw a line at Egypt. [/qb][/QUOTE]That's because there is still a deeply ingrained psychological bias against blacks in terms of significant history. Egypt as we know was not only the oldest and most advanced civilizations in the world, it was also one that was highly influential and helped shaped 'Western Civilization'. Thus it is unacceptable even anathema to many whites that such a civilization could be the product of blacks! It's just an unfortunate and shameful fact that racism is alive and well. That you, Truthcentric, as well as KING are white people who have no problem with this historical truth just gives me hope that the mental disorder that is racism will end someday. [b]LOL[/b] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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