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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Firewall: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [QUOTE] Originally posted by Lyinass: then why is this 2013 Holliday chart showing Nubians less tropically proportioned than Egyptians?[/QUOTE]This is the same sample that in Hanihara et al 2003 clustered away from the Naqada Giza and Kerma subcluster, and instead with with French and other Europeans. Its Christian era and postulated to be mixed with Middle Eastern elements. [URL=http://wysinger.homestead.com/discrete_cranial.pdf]Hanihara 2003 et al[/URL] [/qb][/QUOTE]I've always suspected as much. This reminds me of the (late) Giza sample Zakrewski found to be non-Egyptian but was held up as Egyptian by Howells and how many scholars. Lyinass: "I don't know. I don't know. I don't know." Well now you know, twit! [QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol: [qb] Yeah, you're right that Nubian is just a cluster name. One should keep in mind that "Nubians", Southern Egyptians are endogamous people (who don't easily marry out) and always have been. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes with few exception. As I just pointed out there were Ottoman Imperial outposts in the Nubian region with soldiers raping women if not marrying them. This is why lighter-skinned mixed looking Kanuzi are not that rare. Although I should also point out that interestingly even these light types tend to marry amongst themselves. The vast majority of Kanuzi are still dark. Both Nubians and Upper Egyptian Sa'idi not only marry within their communities but actually practice cousin marriage. So studies of these people do tend to give more stable trends either morphometrically or genetically. [/qb][/QUOTE]Right. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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