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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [QUOTE] Originally posted by Lioness: then why is this 2013 Holliday chart showing Nubians less tropically proportioned than Egyptians?[/QUOTE]This is the same sample that in Hanihara et al 2003 clustered away from the Naqada Giza and Kerma subcluster, and instead with with French and other Europeans. Its Christian era and postulated to be mixed with Middle Eastern elements. [URL=http://wysinger.homestead.com/discrete_cranial.pdf]Hanihara 2003 et al[/URL] [/qb][/QUOTE]Does Holliday reference Hanihara et al 2003 for the article? I don't know I have not read it. [qb] Would this mean modern Nubians on average cluster with French and other Europeans?[/qb] [/QUOTE]My comments of ''Middle Eastern'' elements do not pertain to all of Christian Nubia. The 'Nubia' sample that keeps reappearing in Holiday's work is just a sample that happens to be admixed. The indigenousness of the [i]native[/i] Christian era Nubians, however, is not up for discussion. In fact, Christian era Nubians have more affinity with Sub-Saharan Africans than earlier C and A-group Nubians. Here, below, some other Christian era Nubian sample that is likely to be more reflective of the local population, assumes a cranio-facial position all the way in the back, close to the Teita sample, while the other Nubian samples cluster more to the other side, towards the Naqada Egyptians, Masai and the Tindiga (i.e., Hadza). [IMG]http://a.imageshack.us/img96/1776/africanplot.gif[/IMG] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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