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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] ^ I question the accuracy of that unsourced statement since just because an area has exclusively speakers of a language for a long time does not mean no other languages existed there or that the language spoken there now has always been there. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] Obenga's primary premise is not "since whites have Indo-European then blacks must have Negro-African." We already established a white man Delafosse invented the term Negro-African, pre-Obenga, way back in 1924. [See 2nd post this page] The Indo-European envy thing is a wilful distortion in that the methodology establishing Indo-European as a macrophylum is Obenga's basis: [QUOTE][i] The method used here is the one, in comparative linguistics, that established Indo-European, Semitic and the other world families of languages. The details of this method of comparison applying to Egyptian and modern African languages have been debated and passed in the International Cairo Colloquium. . . . . The goal is the reconstruction of the common ancestor, as it has been done for Indo-European, Semitic, etc. Africanists, who are often poor comparatists, misguide African researchers who are methodologically weak, to erroneous methods that are presented as logical inventions, whereas their premises are completely false. I have debated with the fiercest supporters of Afroasiatic and Hamito-Semitic during colloquiums, symposiums, international scientific meetings. I have answered some of their works in writing. The African side always comes out victorious in these encounters between specialists.[/i][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]If this post is a response to mine, I am well aware of Obenga's goal and the whole Indo-European envy was something I deduced about Winters! I never doubted the common features that the different languages of Africa had even if they are of different phyla. [QUOTE][qb]And for you who don't know, an Africanist is one whose profession is African studies. Africanist is no code word for pan-African ideology. Africanists were the academic arm of colonialism. Ben-Jochannan was always harping about white Africanists' anti-black biased ethnocentrism like white Berbers founded Wagadu (Old Ghana) or caucasian ancient Egypt or late external introduction of iron to inner Africa and so on. Above you can see Obenga distancing himself from Africanist of whom he has a very poor opinion. Also the logical fallacy "Appeal to Authority" is referencing an authority outside their field of study. Citing authorities in their very discipline is never an appeal to authority, it's the way theses are regularly supported. [/qb][/QUOTE]I am well aware of what the term Africanist entails which is why my qualm is only with [i]some[/i] Africanists and not all. There are some who like to use the term as a euphemism for 'Afrocentrist', yet to me it does not matter when one is dealing with something African. In fact, while I disagree with [i]some[/i] aspects of Obenga and even Gadalla's works, there are other aspects I agree with entirely. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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