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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: I never knew about population genetics evidence for linguistics.[/QUOTE]What evidence would this be, the tishkoff passage I referred to? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] If Berbere is as Obenga proposes unconnected to Negro-Egyptien then my guess is the Maghreb for its birthplace.[/qb] Fits in with the Atlas' domain relative isolation from much of the continent before the Holocene (unless its derivation's in Eneolithic times). K.Williams of the Afrisian school posited Berber phylum origin in Sudan (Gharb Darfur). Where do others place Berber's beginnings? [/QUOTE]Outside of the linguistic evidence out there, this is why I refuse to even entertain Obenga. What you just said is the only scenario that would make his exclusion of Berber work, and its so weak that it leaves me scratching my head. If anyone wondered why, THIS is why I'm not wasting my time researching the merits of a linguistic theory that is at odds with literally all the data out there. How can Berbers have Berber specific Y-chromosome[b]s[/b] that diverged off of Afrasan signature Y chromosomes >4ky ago, speak languages that diverged around the same time, but yet, the unique-to-Berber language family is supposed to be uncorrelated to the >4ky old unique-to-Berbers uniparentals (E-M81 and E-V65)? If the Berber tongue originated with pre-existing stone age populations in the Magreb, why do literally ALL Berber speakers have E-M81? Did East Africans manage to find them all one one by one, and cause this y chromosome to become dominant as many times as there are Berber speakers with domninant E-M81 y chromosomes? If it was passed on to them by their predecessors in the Maghreb, why do the most ancient branches of this family originate in the North East (e.g., Tuareg, Awdjilah), consistent with Afrasan? This is one of those theories that you know must have been penned down/revived by someone who was cut off from relevant research, because nothing independantly corroborates it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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