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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] It is Amun-Ra The Ultimate , following Ehret that claims all African languages originated in East Africa. Asar I do not accept the idea that the African language phylums originated in East Africa between the Sudan and the Great Lakes region. I don't accept the idea because the archaeology supports the idea that the early Egyptians moved into the Nile Valley and Sudan from the Sahara. I agree that reconstruction can confirm a genetic relationship between two or more languages. I have reconstructed, Proto-Saharan terms (Winters,1985,1989,2013), Proto-Afro-Dravidian terms (Winters, 1999a,1999b,2000) and Proto-African terms (Winters,2013), but I don't believe in the ability to reconstruct a Pre-Proto-language. You talk about a Pre-Proto-Bantu language, e.g.," Stewart's Proto-Potou-Akanic-Bantu can be considered a Pre-Proto-Bantu". This would just be in my opinion a Proto-Bantu language. For example, when I reconstructed Proto-Mande languages I recognize that the Mande languages separated into Northern and Southeastern branches. As a result, you theorecticallly should be able to reconstruct Proto-Mande which would include all the Mande languages (which I have done Winters,1986), and also Proto-Northern and Proto-Southeastern Mande. Being able to reconstruct these proto languages does not make Proto-Northern and Proto-Southeastern Mande Pre-Proto- languages they just represent the sub-families in the Super-Mande family of languages. You say: "No one is arguing these languages came from Egypt. The argument is that the phylum for which ciKam (Egyptian) derived came from east Africa and moved up the Nile into Egypt. This is consistent with Egyptian history as demonstrated by the Egyptians themselves." I disagree. First of all ancient Egyptian was probably a lingua franca used to unite liguistically the various groups who lived in the diverse "city-states" that made up ancient Egypt.Since it was a lingua franca, it could not have been derived from a language spoken in East Africa around the Great Lakes region, because the archaeology supports a Saharan origin for much of Egyptian civilization not Great Lakes region. There are similarities between Egyptian and Saharan motifs (Farid,1985). It was in the Sahara that we find the first evidence of agriculture, animal domestication and weaving (Farid , 1985, p.82). This highland region is the Kemites "Mountain of the Moons " region, the area from which the civilization and goods of Kem, originated.I call this area The African Fertile Crescent. The rock art of the Saharan Highlands support the Egyptian traditions that in ancient times they lived in the Mountains of the Moon. The Predynastic Egyptian mobiliar art and the Saharan rock art share many common themes including, characteristic boats(Farid 1985,p. 82), men with feathers on their head (Petrie , 1921,pl. xvlll,fig.74; Raphael, 1947, pl.xxiv, fig.10; Vandier, 1952, p.285, fig. 192), false tail hanging from the waist (Vandier, 1952, p.353; Farid, 1985,p.83; Winkler 1938,I, pl.xxlll) and the phallic sheath (Vandier, 1952, p.353; Winkler , 1938,I , pl.xvlll,xx, xxlll). Most of the ancient Egyptians had lived in the Maa Confederation, before migrating into Nile Valley as a result of the desertification of the Saharan region after 3000. References: Farid,El-Yahky. (1985). "The Sahara and Predynastic Egypt an Overview".The Journal for the Society for the Study Egyptian Antiquities, 17 (1/2): 58-65. Petrie,W.M.F. (1921). Corpus of Prehistoric Pottery. London. Raphael, . 1947. Prehistoric Pottery . New York Vandier,J. (1952). Manuel d'archeologie Egyptienne. Winkler, H.A. (1938). Rock Drawings of Southern Upper Egypt. London. 2 volumes. Winters,C.(1986).The Migration Routes of the Proto-Mande.The Mankind Quarterly, 27(1):77-96. __________.(1985)."The Proto-Culture of the Dravidians ,Manding and Sumerians", Tamil Civilization 3, no1,pages 1-9. ______________.(1989).,"Tamil,Sumerian and Manding and the Genetic Model",International Journal of Dravidian Linguistics,18, nol. _______________.(1999a). ProtoDravidian terms for cattle. International Journal of Dravidian Linguistics, 28, 91-98 . _______________.(1999b). Proto-Dravidian terms for sheep and goats. PILC Journal of Dravidian Studies, 9 (2), 183-87. _______________.(2000). Proto-Dravidian agricultural terms. International Journal of Dravidian Linguistics, 30 (1), 23-28. Winters,C.(2013). The Egyptian Language. Createspace Books. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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