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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] Anyone who claims the Sahel is distinct from North Africa cant be taken seriously. North Africa includes the Sahel which is another way of saying the Sahara. North Africa is not simply the coastal portions of the African continent. They should call it Coastal North Africa if they want to subdivide it up like that, because that is NOT all of North Africa. That is why I reject most of these European attempts to equate North Africa as non African. North Africa is African, with more admixture as you get closer to the coasts because of the fact that the Mediterranean has been a conduit for Non Africans to mix with populations closer to the coast. Not only that, but the Sahara desert causes most of North Africa to have very low population density, which means it is relatively easy for Non Africans to have a bigger genetic and physical impact than other places in the world. [/QUOTE]__________________________________ Sahel: Northern Senegal, southern Mauritania, central Mali, southern Algeria and Niger, central Chad, southern Sudan, northern South Sudan and Eritrea. ______________________________________ The question is 1) should the Sahel have it's own gentetic regional category? 2) If the Sahel should not have it's own genetic regional category should the the Sahel be considered part of North Africa or part of Sub Saharan Africa? ___________________________________________________ My answer: The Sahel is 85% sub Saharan African, therefore IF it should not have it's own genetic regional category then it should be part of Sub Saharan Africa and already overlaps The Mahgreb is less than 20% Sub Saharan African Therfore as per genetics if "North African" includes the Sahel then it is too broad and "North African" should not be used at all in genetic discussions of Africa. Instead: Maghreb Sahel should be used, problem solved. ___________________________________ [/qb][/QUOTE]You're completely beside the most important point. African people living in the North African countries (usually in the south) are not included in the DNA Tribes database and most DNA research/study database for that matter. Their samples were just not taken. They were ignored. [b]For example, the Nubian people‎ living in Egypt, the Tibu and Dawada people living in Libya and the Gnawa people living in Morocco and Algeria (among other ethnic groups).[/b] Those people possibly lived *relatively* isolated from other African groups since at least the mid-late Holocene, so they may present some distinctive SNP values different from other black African groups (while sharing distinctive SNP with other African people of course). [/qb][/QUOTE]Precisely. These people play games by trying to omit as many black African populations within the Sahara, even though they are scattered and relatively sparsely populated throughout the region because they want to create a fake dichotomy of North African "others" versus so-called Sub-Saharans, which has been called out many times before. The Sahara is a desert. That means that people arent settled there like they would be if it was a forestland and build cities. They settle around oases on a temporary basis and are nomadic. But that has only been true for about the last 6,000 years. Prior to that, during the last wet phase, the Sahara was much more populated. But of course these clowns will try and pretend that these people were always mixed and simply non African settlers, which is pure nonsense. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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