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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [qb] It seems U6 is North African but its parent haplogroup U originate outside Africa. If you say U6 is African originally then you must say all his parents and grandparents mtDNA are African (that is Haplogroup U, Haplogroup R and Haplogroup N). I guess everything is possible but it seems like a stretch. I still stand by my position that current Berbers people have some relatively high level of admixture with foreign DNA. Although it is strange since their Y-DNA (Haplogroup E) is mostly African in origin. It's hard to imagine foreign migrants bringing with them much more women than men. Maybe the migrants men were eliminated somehow at some early point during a conflict or something. [/qb][/QUOTE]Not necessarily so. Just because a clade originated in Africa does not mean its mother clade originated in Africa as well. Yes we know most U derived clades exist outside of Africa but U6 and probably U5 arose in Africa. Another thing to remember is that the likely origin of these Eurasian clades is Southwest Asia. Southwest Asia is right next to Africa and as was explained many times the paleolithic populations among which these clades arose were not much different from their African brethren right next door. So exactly where is the genetic divide between them and Africans?? This seems to be a big Eurocentric ruse-- that Eurasian means totally distinct from African when such was not the case. As Keita put it: [i] The issue of how much Paleolithic migration from the Near East there may have been is intriguing, and the mitochondrial DNA variation may need to be reassessed as to what can be considered to be only of "Eurasian origin" because if hunters and gatherers roamed between the Saharan and supra-Saharan regions and Eurasia it might be difficult to determine exactly "where" a mutation arose.-- Keita, In Hot Pursuit of Language in Prehistory ed. John Benjamins.[/i] (2008) Even before the advent of genetics many Western scholars recognized a continuity between the populations of Southwest Asia (Arabia & the Levant) and North Africa via skeletal remains and such was only strengthened in recent times by genetics. Unfortunately this gave the Euronuts license to segregate North Africa from the rest of Africa and extradite it to Eurasia. We know such is ridiculous fallacy and a futile attempt to white-wash North Africa and even deny Southwest Asia's black roots. As I even pointed out there are 'Eurasian' clades found in Sub-Sahara as well among populations which Euronuts aren't so keen to claim. This is why folks like Mathilda and her lackey Lyinass fail every time. Lyinass who is desperate to deny or ignore black Berbers but claim fair-skinned types no matter how un-Caucasian their features may be. :D [/qb][/QUOTE]No matter how you spin it. Euronut and racist will always link haplotypes such as U, R and N to Near Eastern or European origin and thus non-African people because they are rare among Africans south of the Sahara. If the analysis of Ramses III shown Ramses III to be the same types as current foreign admixture of coastal Berbers or coastal North Africans (U, R or N haplogroup), they would directly link it to the current Near Eastern and/or European populations which have a higher prevalence of such haplogroups. Obviously Ramses III is actually E-M2 (e1b1a). Same thing with the DNA tribes results on the mummy analysis. If it shown close relationship with current population in the Levant or North Africa, it would be a way for them to disconnect Ancient Egypt with the rest of Africa. That is Sub-Sahara Africa. Saying North African carries ancient African STRs ain't going to cut it if those STRs are almost not present in population below the Sahara too but are otherwise more widespread in the Near East or Europe. Saying U, R or N haplogroup are African haplogroups doesn't change a thing since they are rare in the rest of Africa (and in the southern part of North African countries). I see it only as another way to disconnect Ancient Egypt from the rest of Africa. All studies (archeological, genetics) shows that Ancient Egyptians are not linked to the North and the Delta but to the South and Sudan. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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