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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] ^ It's funny that you should bring up the Toda because that is exactly what I had in mine when I saw Tukuler's Moroccan woman who despite her Australoid appearance was rather fair. The Toda despite their relative isolation in the Nilgiri Hills area of southern India still have experienced some admixture with Indians of northern extraction which is why you have some Toda who are light skinned and others who are quite dark (black) even though both display 'Australoid' features. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] Yup. But the lighter one really got licked by the archaic stick. And yes the darker one got a tap of it too. It's obvious in the both of them's facial bone structure. I changed your hi-lite to show my emphasis is "archaic admixture" not Eurasian admixture. It's more a case of continuity or atavism than admixture of course. As far as Eurasian admixture I can't see where the lighter one has any historic non-African in her. You know my position is some lightening factor was onboard before the historic era. I don't see why when far NW Africa was nearly isolated from continent during the LGAM that indigenous folk had some at least San light complexions. No telling what colour the mtDNA HV H and V were. Also what would keep any Iberians from crossing the straight during the LGAM? Historic sources from AE to Greco-Latin all note light elements among a majority dark complexioned greater supra-Saharan Africa. [/qb][/QUOTE][b]LOL[/b] @ "licked by the archaic stick" I agree that aboriginal Northwest Africans likely were of the same complexion as Khoisan, but the Moroccan woman you posted was very fair and even had light colored eyes. This leads me to believe she does have some admixture probably from Iberians. Whether such admixture dates to historic times or before is a matter of conjecture. But recall that fair-skinned Berbers have the second highest rates of skin cancer in Africa next to white South Africans who have the highest. Coincidentally the Maghreb just like South Africa lie in subtropical latitudes just outside of the tropics yet apparently the UV intensity is still too strong for fair-skin. I'm still looking for photos of the Ushtetta people of Tunisia who were described as a remnant 'Australoid' group in Africa by Westerners. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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