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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] You are correct. Non of the haplotypes are 'European' in origin but they are Southwest Asian. And you're right that Euronuts often use the label 'Near Eastern' to obfuscate the fact that they arose among populations right next door to Africans and were essentially no different from Africans. While mitochondrial hg U, H, and V, and T are rare and occur at appreciable frequencies in North Africa, hg M, N, and R [i]do[/i] occur in Sub-Sahara particularly in east Africa. R0 for example which is prevalent in Sudan even among southern Sudanese and M1 and N1 are common in the Horn. Of course that is why Euronuts are attempting to white-wash these people as well. It is a silly game that more educated people are no longer playing. [/qb][/QUOTE]You have the right to your own opinion but you can't say I am correct. I completely disagree with you. Saying U, R or N haplogroups are African haplogroups doesn't change a thing since they are rare in the rest of Africa (and in the southern part of North African countries to a lower degree). I see it only as another way to disconnect Ancient Egypt from the rest of Africa. Linking it more to the Middle East than with the rest of Africa south of the Sahara. Obviously it doesn't make sense because DNA analysis clearly show than Ancient Egyptians are nothing like most modern Egyptians or people inhabiting the coastal region of the country. They probably didn't have any significant amount of those haplogroups. Also saying haplogroups U, R or N are African haplogroups make us looks like outlier with no logical and academic basis. A desperate attempts to steal other people's haplogroups. All geneticists and a quick look at the distribution of those haplogroups show they have a much higher prevalence outside Africa. Ancient unadmixed carriers of the E-35/E-78 haplogroups probably looks something like the Masalit people (maybe the picture is Fur people or some other Nilo-Saharan people who looks like Masalit): [IMG]http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w513/Amunratheultimate/Misc/Geneinaornei094b.jpg[/IMG] Massalit people (and Fur people) possess some of the highest level of M35/M78 in the world. That is 72% (23/32), (E-M215+E-M78 on the graph). E-35 (E-78) is just another branch of the African E and E-P2 haplogroups. [IMG]http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w513/Amunratheultimate/Misc/PhylogeneticdistributionoftheY-chromosomehaplotypesandtheirfrequenciesin15sudanesehassan2008phylo.jpg[/IMG] We can notice Masalit got insignificant amount of foreign haplogroups admixture like J, etc. So their high frequencies of the E-78 haplogroup can only be explained with them being part of the original carrier population of the E-35/E-78 haplogroups. Unlike the Berbers, they probably have little amount of foreign haplogroup admixture. That is haplogroups which didn't originate in Africa. That's not the case with modern coastal Berbers which have a high amount of foreign MtDNA. That is many Berber carriers of E-35 are also carriers of MtDNA and thus foreign SNPs. When a population groups got lets say 40% of MtDNA in their population, it means 40% are from female lineages originating outside Africa. The DNA tribes results also shows significant SNP linkage with West Asia and more limited linkage with so called Sub-Sahara (they cluster with some modern Arabian groups). So their autosomal SNP profiles can be seen more in West Asia than in Africa south of the Sahara. Same thing as their MtDNA (but unlike their E-P2 Y-DNA of course). [/QB][/QUOTE]
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