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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by africurious: [qb] ^It's ok. I mentioned the "race debate" because I wanted to avoid trolls and afronuts jumping in the thread with their squabbling but that didn't work. Big L and big C jumped in with their crap anyway. Btw, I noticed you mentioned "mizraimites" in regard to arabia [ishmaelites] and crete--how come? [/qb][/QUOTE]Caphtorim and I believe another descendant of Mizraim (don't remember which one right now) are associated with the Sea Peoples. The bible explicitly states that the Philistines originate from Caphtorim. It is widely known that Cretans were one of the most important source populations for the Philistines. The bible also mentions Kerethites as being in close association with Philistines. The Kerethites are often identified with Cretans among modern scholars and bible commentators. I was going to tell you that the Egyptian brown skinned delegates from Keftiu were Cretans, but just now I've read that this direct identification is problematic. The Keftiu [i]still[/i] would have come from Aegean territory and they'd still be closely affiliated with Cretans, as evidenced by the links that have been made between the depicted brown skinned ambassadors from Keftiu and the Cretan/Aegean things that accompany them. As for Ishmaelites, they, or a fraction of them, are called Hagarites in the bible, after their maternal ancestor (Hagar). Assyrian and other sources testify to the presence of Egyptians (various variations of 'Mizraim', e.g., ''Musur'') in the same portions of Northern Arabia that the Ishmaelites were known to inhabit. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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