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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] ^Hey Mena, there certainly were pre/proto-dynastic fortresses in southern Canaan, in the time period when Lower Egyptian wasn't yet incorporated in the Upper Egyptian kingdom. These fortresses were built, as far as archaeologists are able to tell, exclusively by Upper Egyptians. Its not inconceivable that some of those Upper Egyptians didn't return and stayed. [QUOTE] Originally posted by Djehuti: Although now that you mention it, the more popular theory is that the Genesis passage from the Table of Nations may be based on a distant memory of colonization of the Mediterranean by the Egyptians.[/QUOTE]Agree. It is well known that many biblical stories contain vestiges of older events, and that younger events contain traces of older events. This is because large portions of the bible, especially biblical stories that are roughly contemporary with the Amarna period (king David, Solomon), weren't written down until much later. [QUOTE] Originally posted by Djehuti: Though the problem with this idea is that such connections at least judging from the philological studies of the Genesis texts and the Table of Nations pre-date the New Kingdom and are dated to Bronze Age (Old Kingdom) times.[/QUOTE]Yes, the biblical authors place those events in Old Kingdom times, but the Hebrews weren't around in those times. Their language probably didn't even exist back then as fully crystallized Hebrew, according to the most recent linguistic studies (e.g., [URL=http://indo-european-migrations.scienceontheweb.net/Semitic_dendrogram_Kitchen.gif]Ehret[/URL]), and they show no consistent awareness of (early) Bronze Age events (e.g., Egyptian kings that conducted raids and mined in the area, the introduction of writing from Egyptians, etc). The farthest they seem to be able to go back in time without venturing into the dreamy and mythological (Cham, Noah, the flood, giants, Egyptian slavery, ten plagues, Samson's super strength, etc) is way after the Amarna period (around 3kya), and even those recollections contain anachronistic errors (e.g., Goliath in Greek hoplite armour). This is not a stab at the bible or Christians, I'm just saying that the act of writing something that takes place during a certain time period, does not mean that those accounts were penned down by someone who lived in that time period. [QUOTE] Originally posted by Djehuti: There are some scholars who find the Arabian Mesra to be different from the Mizraim (Egyptians) proper.[/QUOTE]The Yemenite Mesra have little demonstrated ties to ancient West Asian & Northern African affairs, let alone Ancient Egyptians (maybe there are, but I haven't seen them yet). The ancient authors of West Asia (Egypt, Hebrews, Assyrians) knew little about Yemen. The bible, for example, quotes Jesus as saying that Yemen was near the end of the earth. The Middle Eastern Mizraim referred to in Ancient West Asian documents lived (as far as I know) in the area of Northern Arabia, where the Ishmaelites lived. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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