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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Explorer: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: Of course it does; in your sick interpretation of Holiday, re: ''Pygmies are outliers''. Lying troll.[/QUOTE]You are still showing how utterly absentminded you are about body shape items, dumbfuck. All the same, detail how body linearity turns pygmies into some supposed non-tropically adapted transplants of sub-Saharan Africa, trash head. [QUOTE]Of course your lying ass didn't; that was my entire point. [/QUOTE]That would be nonsense for a point. You rely on what was not said to find something to rebuttal, when actual said items go unchallenged. What a fuckhead. [QUOTE] Your inherently immoral lying ass nature prevents you from applying the same ''outlier'' status to the Afalou, that you did not hesitate to apply to the more tropically adapted Nubian and Pygmy sample.[/QUOTE]The Afalou, whatever tropical adapted traits they may have, are not "sub-Saharan" Africans, so they cannot be an oultier among sub-Saharan Africans, douchebag. However, if I were relying on Holliday's cited "neighbor-joining tree", and did not question its veracity, then they would stand out as an outlier among the African samples. However, I'm not taking that item for granted. Other reports indicate tropical body proportionality of the Afalou, and their affinity with other Mesolithic-early Holocene African specimens before they do other groups. [QUOTE]Lying troll, you're not responding to the catastrophic predicament you're in; re: the inherent contradiction in your admission that trunk height may totally contradict limb proportions[/QUOTE]Who would respond to an irrelevant post the underscores your fuckheadedness? Body plan includes limbs; trunk on the other hand, does not include limb. You are an ass-wipe for confusing very two different concepts. [QUOTE]Another blatant lie, that I exposed as such earlier.[/QUOTE]The nuttless Neanderthal thinks the idea of Body plan including limbs is a lie. What next? A spherical Earth is a lie. [QUOTE]See this people? This is what a pathologically lying troll looks like. This fraud still has to audacity to claim that fig 5 in the opening posts doesn't depict the Afalou among cold adapted samples in bodyplan.[/QUOTE]This is the first time I've heard Afalou are "cold-dapted". Care to clue us with details of their body proportion indices, rendering them "cold-adapted". [QUOTE]Lying dog, neither of these evasive distractions prove what you initially claimed without a shred of evidence to back it up, re: '',it is both the [b]Mesolithic Maghrebi[/b] and UP Europeans who would cluster with "Africans" before they did with Europeans [b]in their average body plans[/b]''. Where is the evidence?[/QUOTE]You wouldn't recognize proof if it pinched your queer ass. The fact that recent Europeans have lower body/limb and limb proportion indices does not constitute as self-explanatory proof to this knuckleheaded zombie. [QUOTE]Lying dog, what you wrote ''just above'' makes a worthless retarded claim pertaining to bodyplans, and doesn't even begin to address the inconvenient bummer that Ibero-Maurusian limb ratios would have been no different in the scenario that they came out of Eurasia, given the similar or even higher limb ratios in comparative Late Upper Palaeolithic Eurasian fossils. [/QUOTE]The clueless tranny fag you are, it's not surprising that you are stumped by information contained in your own quoted pieces; the late Paleolithic and Mesolithic Europeans tend to have "shortened" limbs, notwithstanding their still higher indices than recent Europeans. Whereas the Mesolithic Maghrebi feature long limb bones, as their femora sizes indicate. They have higher femora size than the Natufians, who too sported higher limb indices than recent Europeans. If they were from Europe, they would have the same pattern as the late Paleolithic Europeans, dickhead. But hey, don't worry: prove that they have the same limb patterns as Late paleolithic Europeans. You are the only clown in this universe, who uses tropical body adaptation features of ancient specimens as evidence against an African origin. LOL [QUOTE]]Lying dog, it has already been brought to your attention that tropical ratios in the case of Mesolithic Europeans weren't even determinative for absolute limb length, let alone body shape.[/QUOTE]Body linearity is not "absolute limb length", idiot! [QUOTE]This is just fake and empty accusing to make it seem like you have something to say. I was well aware enough of the definition to instantly call your invocation of ''linear in stature'' out for the crackpot mumbo jumbo that it is.[/QUOTE]Which is why you were dumbfounded at the prospect of pgymies being "less linear" and implicated as outlier among the "sub-Saharan" bunch, and even more humorously and ironically, went onto use this as evidence of a lack a of tropical body plan for pygmies. Fucking klutz. [QUOTE] Getting back on topic; specifically how does it work out for you that the Afalou are ''linear in stature'' (lol), when they cluster with ''less linear'' samples in fig 5? [/QUOTE]You tell me, why the Afalou would be "less linear". What are the determinants here? [QUOTE]How about fig 5, posted in the opening post of this thread, troll. Is your senile dumbass asleep or something? SMH.[/QUOTE]The figure doesn't tell me jack about the body shape or proportions of the Afalou, fatass. You worship that figure obviously, no doubt for ideological purposes; I don't take it for granted. It's then your duty to share the specifics that you seem to think helps your "Afalou be some little lost Europeans". [QUOTE]Aside from the fact that your rehashed lie that ''body shape cannot be determined without limb data'' is just another example in a long line of fabrications on your part (Bergman's rule can be established independently of Allen's rule), you're also pathetically deluding yourself into believing that your not so subtle switch from your initial ''limb proportion'' to ''limbs'' is going unnoticed. [/QUOTE]Be my guest, bonehead: How does one get an idea of body shape, without its legs. Give me the scientific details of how this is achieved. I don't have to say "limb proportions", klutz; it's tacit. You don't even have the brains to get no-brainers. [QUOTE]Dumbass troll, who has to be on crack to still not have realized by now that the Afalou sample is conforming to exactly what you're asking of me in fig 5 in the OP, have you ever bothered getting your neurone firing rate checked? You are slower than a sedated Sloth.[/QUOTE]So, the Afalou is an example of a "cold-adapted" group with "tropical limb proportions"; according to what set of factors? Lay them out. [QUOTE] Lying dumbass Sloth, I said that your attempt to use the said data as [b]valid grounds[/b] to do what you did in that unfortunate moment of profound obtuseness, failed. Big difference. Other than that, how would fig 5 not qualify as a demonstration that the San have a tropically adapted bodyplan, troll?[/QUOTE]Just having fun with the fact that your retarded ass called my reference to San limb proportion as "obsolete", all the while not having a lick of an idea as to what makes it so. [QUOTE]No more evasive distractions; explain RIGHT NOW what crack-induced figment led you to conclude ''outliers'' were spoken of in Holiday's distinction between ''linear'' and ''less linear''?[/QUOTE]You are hopeless fruitcake. Ask a kindergartener to help you learn what an outlier is. I've exhausted my efforts in trying. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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