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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [QB] Could all ancient Greek known Libyans be "Berbers"? I don't know about Garamantes being Berbers. Where is the hard linquistic evidence for whatever forms of speech they used? I have it there are grave markers written by Garamantes. Can someone produce. I also doubt close relationship between Garamantes and the "classic Berbers" of Africa's Mediterranean littoral. Only aDNA from Garamante samples can assure that one way or the other. Meanwhile what cultural traits link Garamantes to "Berbers" (for those of you who feel Berber is an ethnic group)? Some archaeologists/historians have interpreted the so-called 'Libyco-Berbers' in contact with the earlier civilization of Dhar Tichitt -- forerunner to Wagadu (old Ghana) -- to have been Garamantes. Ancient pre-Islam era trade from the Aukar/Tagant, to the Joliba's (Niger's) parabola to Air and on to the north, seems to have been under Garamante control at least in its last legs. Garamante for sure were the last leg in the north bound trade from Tibesti and from pre-Kanem. Graves (1955) wrote well before 1980 and old ideas like the Joliba being the Gir of the Greco-Latin writers are unfounded. Froebenius wanted to see a short form of Garamante in the mention of the city Jerra (first of the four names of Wagadu) in the Dausi epic, also that the Fasa of could be a short form for Fezzan peoples. [URL=http://underscore]In Greek mythology Garamas, aka Amphithemis, is the son of a Minoan woman named Akakallis in the days of the Argonauts who settled in Libya .[/URL] I don't think Nasamonians were a subset of Garamantes so the above Garamas seems not to be the same one as in [QUOTE] THE OLYMPIAN CREATION MYTH At the beginning of all things Mother Earth emerged from Chaos and bore her son Uranus as she slept. . . . b. Her first children of semi-human form were the hundred-handed giants Briareus, Gyges, and Cottus. . . . c. The Libyans, however, claim that Garamas was born before the Hundred-handed Ones and that, when he rose from the plain, he offered Mother Earth a sacrifice of the sweet acorn. [/QUOTE]Note however that the acorn is associated with both Garamas and Gara per Graves. Garamante most likely derives from the name of their later capital city Garama, today's Jerma. Read more: http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/116/forgotten-garamante-kingdom?page=2#ixzz2YClAsXLT [/QB][/QUOTE]
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