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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: Nikita is simply giving the locations through time where trephinated skulls in fact exist not merely postulated. It's a long time from Gafsian culture to the Garama federation without any trephinated skulls in the chotts or desert in between Gafsa and Fezzan The shortest line timewise is Nile to Fezzan.[/QUOTE]Sure, but given the peculiarity of the practice, the ancestral continuity of the prehistoric and modern Maghrebi populations in question, as well as the repeated occurrences of the practice in Algeria in both Epi-Palaeolithic times and Iron age, I think it makes more sense to think of it as continuation rather than who knows how many independent innovations in the same expansive region. Unless we're of the mindset that the Maghrebi cranium collections excavated so far represent every soul ever born in the Maghreb, I'm not at all convinced that the apparent absence of the this practice in preserved craniums after the Epi-Palaeolithic can be used as evidence that it was absent. Interestingly, the practice somewhat parallels the Epi-Palaeolithic Maghrebi and the African phenotyped Shuqbah Natufian practice of tooth evulsion, which, at first glance doesn't seems to have been passed on to the Sudan as it is absent in contemporary Sudani representatives like the Epi-Palaeolithic Jebel Sahaba and the Mesolithic Wadi Halfa, but guess what, some modern Sudanic tribes practice it. We can agree to disagree, but as far as I'm concerned, the sheer peculiarity of North African traits like tooth evulsion and trephination precludes them from being easily brushed off as repeated independent innovations whenever they seemingly appear to be separated in time and space. I'm not buying it. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: Taforalt / Afalou-bou-Rhumel / Gafsa are part of an Atlas world not the Saharan world of Fezzan.[/QUOTE]Archaeologically and phenotypically, ''Proto-Mediterranean'' Capsian populations gradually transitioned into modern Maghrebi populations (I'm avoiding 'Berber' so as to not solicit any more distractions about who or what Berber speakers are). There are several thousand years in between terminal Capsian and the Garamantes kingdom. What exactly is against Tunisian post Capsian cultured populations gradually settling the Fezzan? I mean, Neolithic Capsian populations already permeated into Northern Libya. See my aforementioned references to Tunisian and Tuareg Capsian associated mtDNA H and V lineages. As I've alluded to earlier, H1 so far has the highest Maghrebi diversity in Tunisia and the highest frequency in Fezzan Tuareg. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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