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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Son of Ra: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Son of Ra: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Son of Ra: [qb] Okay we all know that Northwest Africans are an extremely diverse group of people. We know that their Y-DNA is predominantly African while their MtDNA is diverse/mixed. Geneticist often say Northwest Africans are a result of Eurasian females and African males. Correct me if I am wrong, but I usually hear that. We obviously know North Africa was populated by Africans since the OOA(though some Eurocentrics would beg to differ). We know the during the 15th century, that's the time when we mostly see Eurasian admixture(mostly from Europe). But since Northwest Africans are so genetically diverse. What is the [i]average[/i] type phenotype found among Northwest Africans? From my real life personal experience I have to go with [i]A[/i]. From what I've seen most Northwest Africans seem to have this mulatto type look going on. I haven't seen a lot of NW Africans but the ones I've seen look like mulattos. Second would be [i]D[/i] which would be the middle eastern type look. IMO I think the European and [b][i]stereotypical[/i][/b] African look are the minority phenotype among Northwest Africans. As for origins. Dana who is a specialist on this topic said there were no European/white Berbers until the 15th century. I actually agree with her. Its been stated that the vast majority of slaves around the Mediterranean, from antiquity to roughly the 1700s, were of European origin. Jawhar al-Siqill, the founder of Cairo, was a Sicilian-born slave. It is also likely that European slaves were even present in the kingdoms of the Sahel and savannahs. Like I said in my thread about my novel to Sundiate, the demand for Turkish slaves in Timbuktu was fairly high. My theory of the origins of [b]modern[/b] Northwest Africans is that when the Moors conquered Iberia and other parts of Southern Europe, the local European population under their rule converted to Islam then started to be called Moors while the Moorish armies remained made up of Blacks/Africans. When the Christians took over Spain and expelled the Muslims, who at this point were almost all European with slight admixture of African fled to North Africa. These are the modern populations of North Africa and are mostly African/African mixed and European, because from what I heard, north Africa was [b]sparsely[/b] populated to begin with. They then displaced the local African/blacks into a more southward direction. Conclusion: IMO I think the [i]bulk[/i] of modern Northwest Africans are the result of Expelled Muslims from Europe and Enslaved Europeans. [/qb][/QUOTE]Stereotypical these are the most common types in the North of Northwest Africa. In the post above you'll see the stereotypical types from Central and South Northwest Africa. [IMG]http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Common/berber_women.jpg[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE]Thanks for answering my question. [/qb][/QUOTE]Its ok, Here are a few famous ones, Lorine Zineb Nora Talhaoui (Loreen) [IMG]http://www.bugaga.ru/uploads/posts/2012-05/1338280471_loreen-2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32300000/Loreen-loreen-32376020-512-288.jpg[/IMG] Amel Bent [IMG]http://i35.tinypic.com/2iufjuc.jpg[/IMG] Amelle Berrabah [IMG]http://musicologyuk.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/amelle-berrabah.jpg?w=385[/IMG] http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/23700000/Amelle-Berrabah-sugababes-23747517-1280-1024.jpg [/qb][/QUOTE]Good post. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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