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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: What it says is that Vandals were in Africa. This is a fact. Another fact is that we now have a genetic relation to certain Berber tribes and the partly Germanic offshoot. [/QUOTE]do you mean genetic in terms of DNA or linguistic? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: What this tells is, that those Vandals who spoke proto-Germanic have influenced the original Berber language. In certain regions. [/QUOTE]No it doesn't If Vandals were in the region it 1) doesn't mean they impressed on berber language a Germanic influence 2) doesn't mean mean they did not stop speaking their language and start speaking local language or Phoenician 3) The Vandals came into Africa after the Pheonicians Greeks and Romans in the area. Particular berbers the Vandals may have come into contact with in the Roman territories may have spoken Greek, Latin or Phoenician [/qb][/QUOTE] :eek: So, you're saying that other languages didn't influence the berber language, with loanwords? Do tell what makes you the expert here on Berber language? :D Do you understand the word "influence". Not root but "influence". Okeedoke? [QUOTE] The general analysis (based on historical sources, epigraphy and archaeological evidence) focuses on transitions in town and country and economy from Roman to Vandal and to Byzantine rule and observing patterns and facets of continuity and change. Background: The most recent Alu insertions reveal different series of characteristics such as stability that make them particularly suitable genetic markers for human biological studies. Subjects and methods: Forty-seven Berbers from Sejnane and 33 from Takrouna were sampled. Alu insertion polymorphism was analysed using PCR with loci specific primers. Results: A similar level of gene diversity was detected in Sejnane and Takrouna populations. PC results revealed genetic affinities between these two populations and some Eurasian populations ( [b]Germany[/b], Genova and Syria). In contrast, there is a differentiation between these two Berber communities and North African and Iberian populations. Conclusion: The results of this study confirm the heterogeneity of Berbers in North Africa, which suggests their diverse origins. In the case of Sejnane and Takrouna populations, these results are in line with an ancient Euro Mediterranean background that has already been studied by archaeologists, particularly for the population of Sejnane. [/QUOTE]Assessing human genetic diversity in Tunisian Berber populations by Alu insertion polymorphisms S. Frigi, H. Ennafaa, M. Ben Amor, L. Cherni and A. Ben Ammar-Elgaaied http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/03014460.2010.490241 [QUOTE] The period in question from AD 300 to AD 700, spans more that political transitions: it sees the adoption of Christianity (during the Las Imperial period and the Byzantine times), the [b] Vandal [/b]rule and the adoption of Arianism and the Arab/Muslim imposition. It is also a period of archaeological and material transition: towns and economic system change, public structures (but not churches) decay. I have analysed how classical towns changed through centuries, how building were reused and progressively transformed. [/QUOTE]--Dr Anna Leone, PhD https://www.dur.ac.uk/archaeology/staff/?id=2187 Ps, your advocation is transparent. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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