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In 700 B.C during the 25 dynasty in Egypt, when the Ethiopian Warrior-Prince Taharka was a young general, but before he had been ceded the throne by his uncle Shabataka. It is this same Taharka (referred to in early Spanish chronicles as Tarraco) that led a garrison into Spain and invaded it during this period. There is clear and indisputable reference to this in a manuscript by Florian de Ocampo, Cronica General published in Medina del Campo in 1553. The name of the invading general is given as Tarraco. He is not only identified as head of the Ethiopian army. The reference is more specific. It says he was later to become a king of Egypt.

The name, the period, the historical fact of his generalship and his later kingship of Egypt, his Ethiopian origin and the wide-ranging trade and exploration of the Ethiopian in this period, all attest to the validity of this reference.

Also the most persuasive of all is the fact that cartouches of the Upper Egyptian kings of this period have been found in Spain! Evidence of such cartouches may be found in the journal of the Epigraphic Society (Vol. 7, No. 171-April 1971)[Golden Age of the Moor by Ivan Van Sermita]

Taharka was EVEN mentioned in the Hebrew Bible, under the name 'Taharqa'. Taharka,[Taharqa/Tarraco] Also led a Army into Palestine to support the Israelite king Hezekiah against the Assyrians; Defending Israel who was his ally. He is therefore in the Bible in two places, 2 Kings 19:9, and Isaiah 37:9. For this and other feats, Starbo [Greek Scholar] included Taharka in a list of history’s greatest conquerors. Taharka was also mentioned by Another Roman historian, Diodorus of Sicily.

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Originally posted by Firewall:
I think it's true.

There needs to be a movie or mini-series like the shaka zulu one for Taharqa.

More documentaries will be really good.

I use to say movie,but i think more so a mini-series will be better.

It will tell the story better and in more detail.

That is what they needed to do first before another alexander movie.

Mini series are the best way to go first.

I know movies could reach a larger crowd,but i prefer the story to be told well then reaching a larger crowd right away and if done right,promoted right etc... it could reach that large enough crowd in time.


Will smith may have change his mind,because of Hollywood may have wanted to change the script.

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Originally posted by Son of Ra:
^^^Agreed.

Not trying to be racist, but Hollywood is dominated by Jews and I dont think they would like to see a powerful African ruling over people who they claim were not African, that ruled over them(which was proven to be false btw).

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Originally posted by Son of Ra:


Greek historians Erathosthenes or Strabo state he advanced as far as Europe and even as far as the "Pillars of Hercules" in Spain.

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The Pillars of Hecules are a name given by the ancient Greeks to a pair of rocks at the Strait of Gibraltar, the entrance to the Mediterranean Sea. The northern, or European, rock is Gibraltar (ancient name: Calpe).

I'm not sure about how "as far as" applies


Rock of Gibralter
 

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Greek historians Erathosthenes or Strabo state he advanced as far as Europe and even as far as the "Pillars of Hercules" in Spain.

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The Pillars of Hecules are a name given by the ancient Greeks to a pair of rocks at the Strait of Gibraltar, the entrance to the Mediterranean Sea. The northern, or European, rock is Gibraltar (ancient name: Calpe).

I'm not sure about how "as far as" applies


Rock of Gibralter

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Originally posted by Son of Ra:
^I've seen that book, but I have not read it. Many people said it was really good, so I really wanna try it out. Did you read it? How was it?

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Originally posted by Tukuler:
No.

Pharaoh Taharqa did not invade Iberia.
His hands were quite full w/t Assyrians.

There is absolutely no pre-foreign
domination AE record of any direct
contact with Iberia, Appenninica,
or even the central to west Maghreb.

I used to own Heeren's Historical researches
into the politics, intercourse, and trade of
the Carthaginians, Ethiopians, and Egyptians
and there was nothing there.

There's plenty of authentic info
about Taharqa to besmirch it by
chasing fantasies.

Taharqa in Iberia is but a romantic legend.
Stuff like that is what makes some doubt
Africa has any legitimate history at all.

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Originally posted by Brada-Anansi:

Have the book, quite good actually should be in your personal library along with
Black Spark White Fire and
Diop's classic African Origin of Civilization Myth or Reality,
George G.M James Stolen Legacy,
Man, God and Civilization John G. Jackson,
Nature knows no color line J.A Rogers.
Mind you much in these works are dated due to new info especially from genetics but so much more is confirmed and stood the test of time.

Ps yall need to sign up for Swenet's facebook thing and ESR it should not be an either or neither situation,trolls keep fuking with you all and I refuse to make new meaningful threads under these conditions.

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Originally posted by Tukuler:
They? Who is they?
& when did "they"
say it?

I mean, seriously
read up on Dyn 25
you'd be surprised
what you might find

Dyn 25 pharaoh's left
annals on their doings
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Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
In 700 B.C during the 25 dynasty in Egypt, when the Ethiopian Warrior-Prince Taharka was a young general, but before he had been ceded the throne by his uncle Shabataka. It is this same Taharka (referred to in early Spanish chronicles as Tarraco)

On what basis did you say "Taracco" is the same as
the famed Tarharka? What "early Spanish chronicles" say
Tarhaka is the same Taracco? You haven't given any
credible sources just that the names may sound the
same and begin with "T"..

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6 But as for us, what just credence can we place in the accounts of India
derived from such an expedition made by Cyrus, or Semiramis? And Megasthenes
virtually agrees with this reasoning when he bids us to have no faith in the
ancient stories about the Indians; for, he says, neither was an army ever
sent outside the country by the Indians nor did any outside army ever invade
their country and master them, except that with Heracles and Dionysus and
that in our times with the Macedonians. However, Sesostris, the Aegyptian,
he adds, and Tearco the Aethiopian advanced as far as Europe; 687 and Nabocodrosor,
who enjoyed greater p9repute among the Chaldaeans than Heracles, led an army
even as far as the Pillars. Thus far, he says, also Tearco went; and Sesostris
also led his army from Iberia to Thrace and the Pontus; and Idanthyrsus the
Scythian overran Asia as far as Aegypt; but no one of these touched India,
and Semiramis too died before the attempt; and, although the Persians
summoned the Hydraces as mercenary troops from India, the latter did
not make an expedition to Persia, but only came near it when Cyrus was
marching against the Massagetae.

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Originally posted by Tukuler:

No.

Pharaoh Taharqa did not invade Iberia.
His hands were quite full w/t Assyrians.

There is absolutely no pre-foreign
domination AE record of any direct
contact with Iberia, Appenninica,
or even the central to west Maghreb.

I used to own Heeren's Historical researches
into the politics, intercourse, and trade of
the Carthaginians, Ethiopians, and Egyptians
and there was nothing there.

There's plenty of authentic info
about Taharqa to besmirch it by
chasing fantasies.

Taharqa in Iberia is but a romantic legend.
Stuff like that is what makes some doubt
Africa has any legitimate history at all.

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I concur. In all my years of research I have never come upon any evidence that Taharka made any gains in the Maghreb let alone Iberia or any part of Europe. It's one of those 'too good to be true' claims. And you are right that we should leave such fiction alone and go after real historical facts if we are to destroy euronut racism once and for all.
 

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Originally posted by Djehuti:
^ I don't think anyone ever said it was impossible but rather that it was implausible due to the fact that the Kushite Empire that annexed Egypt was a fragile state due to not only maintaining domestic control of the Egyptian state but also warding off the foreign threat of Assyria in Asia but also the the Libyans to the west which was still hostile to Kushite rule. In fact it was this Libyan hostility which left them more vulnerable to Assyrian attack. Some military historians think if the Kushites won the allegiance of the the Libyans they would have stood a better chance against the Assyrians, not to mention made it plausible for Taharqa to create a westward Mediterranean route that reached the Maghreb and thus 'Pillars of Herakles'.

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Originally posted by Djehuti:
^ Taharqa could not spare any forces due to the Assyrian threat to the east and the hostile Libyans to the west, so I don't think he could afford to send an expedition to the far west. That said, I think it's possible the Greek tale may be based on something such as the theory I've read once that the Taharka spoken of may have been an entirely different African king.

I notice that the Greek legends have personages that share the same names found in historical records but with entirely different characters. For example the tale of the warrior queen Semiramis which is found not only in Greek legend but also in Armenian and Persian legends is different from the known historical record of Shammuramat that some scholars suggests the warrior queen represents a different queen with the same name.

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