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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: Don't get cute explaining Punic is Phoenician to me. Who do you think you're talking to? No way you'll make points with newbies at my expense. So Septimius got his Punic from growing up in the household of an Italian mother, right, while his sister learned no Latin from their Italian mommy when she was growing up. You thought you'd worm your way out of that one? Distracting non-sequitors don't cut it. [/QUOTE]It's not clear what your claim is on Severus' accent. He was born in a Roman province in Libya that had been Phoenician. His mother was Italian. He spoke Punic and therefore had a Punic accent when he later learned Latin and Greek. These are thought to be facts as per historians. If they are incorrect then you need to put forward an alternate conspiracy theory about his accent and ancestry. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: Another point you tried to slink away from is a - vacant post-Gafsian Maghreb b - inhabited post-Gafsian Maghreb which one? You know it can't be both. [/QUOTE]^^^"All or nothing" mentality there you go throwing in the obscure terms "post-Gafsain" I don't know if anybody every used that before. To the people I'm going to guess great sage intellectual prophet means post wet period Sahara. As I said before there was a long stretch over 1000 years of no eveidence of human habiation in the Maghreb. They might find some in the future. Long haired Nomadic tribes are mentioned by the Greeks but Sea people and other foreigners had been entering the region hundreds of years before Herodotus. Were the nomads also mixed with descendants or earlier deep rooted indigenous Africans? I don't know, there is no anthropolgical evidence yet. But there is evidence for earlier green period settlements that came to an end over 1000 years before the Geeks were talking about Libyan tribes. We can go into West and other parts of African and find the deep roots yeah I said geeks, the ancient geeks [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: Other ignorant statements that railroad your attempt to play "forum master" and "credible scholar" -- when actually the stuff you post that mostly makes sense is mainly plagiarized -- to newbies who don't know your history * Carthage is not distinct from Phoenicia [/QUOTE]if you mean Carthage had no relation to Phoenica you are misleading the people Most scholariship is plagerist ideas, primary sources reworded. However Mike does "innovate" [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: Other ignorant statements * Angus McBrides total fantasy Tichitt Phoenicia trade [/QUOTE]please follow the thead, Son of Ra introduced that picture, it's his fault, my post remark was "The illustration portays Phoenicians traders trading with Mandé merchants of the Pre-Imperial Mali in the 10th c I'm not sure that happened, would need to see another source verifying it." Where were you when he first posted that? please explain about the total fantasy, I don't know much about it. I suppose there are timeline issue ? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: Other ignorant statements * playing ignorant of Gafsian Neolithic Tradition (circa -5300 to -2900) after the Gafsian ended (circa -6000) even though submitting a c -8000 to -2700 range for entire Gafsian [/QUOTE]no more egghead terminology please, nobody in the forum is using "Gafsian" thats a gaffe [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: Other ignorant statements [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=008571;p=3]here[/URL] * eastern Libyans are one predominant ancient Maghreb ethny [/QUOTE]follow the thread my posted remark was: "Heodotus described two main regions of Libyans and this breaks down further into tribes" [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: Other ignorant statements * Septimius Severus' was a Phoenician Italian hybrid [/QUOTE]Severus came from a wealthy, distinguished family of equestrian rank. He was of Italian Roman ancestry on his mother's side see Birley, Anthony R. (1999) [1971]. Septimius Severus: The African Emperor. Tell us great sage, your evidence that Severus mother was not Italian Here is the detail of the Tondo you mentioned> [URL=http://www.ephotobay.com/share/picture-26-115.html] [IMG]http://www.ephotobay.com/image/picture-26-115.png[/IMG][/URL] Septimus Severus (aka Raw Dogg) ^^ tell us your alternative theory about how this was actually a deep rooted indignenous African maternally and paternally [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: Got to hand it to you though, you keep interest in ES alive where others fell by the wayside and occasionally come up with good shi[i]t[/i] [/QUOTE]in the building [URL=http://www.ephotobay.com/share/sekhmet-lioness-productions.html] [IMG]http://www.ephotobay.com/image/sekhmet-lioness-productions.png[/IMG][/URL] 2013>2014 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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