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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [QB] Only for those who are naïve to two facts 1 - current American standards are not world standards throughout all time 2 - the majority of academicians define N and NE Africans as non-black It is well known that certain Black Americans only slightly resemble inner African phenotypes and are classed as black due to sometimes no more than one out of eight great grand parents being an African and because they were culturally raised in the Black American community. Smith is saying if you go by fast and loose current American ideology you could call AEs black but once you apply other standards they are not. One needs to know how dialectics work to grasp this and other ideas left unspoken but plain as day to those reading between the lines. But Smith is wrong because all down the ages AEs are documented as black by all who saw them from ancient Hebrew and Greek primary documentation right up to the Napoleonic expedition after which AE blackness had to be denied. And this was long before the transatlantic trade and the invention of the American Negro, one drop, etc. This is where the need arose to invent non-black indigenous Africans: Speke's Hamites; caucasoid north and east Africans; etc. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [qb] On this one the lioness is right and Tukuler is wrong. [b]The Oxford Encylopedia of Ancient Egypt[/b] goes further than just stipulating that Ancient Egyptians were "blacks" by American standard. Which is already the strongest statement to say Ancient Egyptians were black Africans like "sub-Saharan" Africans. Negroes to use a slightly more archaic American racial term. They also state some archeological facts demonstrating the linkage between Ancient Egypt and Sub-Saharan Africans. [b] "Archaeological evidence also strongly supports an African origin. A widespread northeastern African cultural assemblage, including distinctive multiple barbed harpoons and pottery decorated with dotted wavy line patterns, appears during the early Neolithic (also known as the Aqualithic, a reference to the mild climate of the Sahara at this time). Saharan and Sudanese rock art from this time resembles early Egyptian iconography. Strong connections between Nubian (Sudanese) and Egyptian material culture continue in later Neolithic Badarian culture of Upper Egypt. Similarities include black-topped wares, vessels with characteristic ripple-burnished surfaces, a special tulip-shaped vessel with incised and white-filled decoration, palettes, and harpoons. The presence of formative pharaonic symbolism in the Lower Nubian A-Group royal burials at Qustul has led Bruce Williams to posit a common Egyptian-Nubian pharaonic heritage, although this notion has been much disputed. Other ancient Egyptian practices show strong similarities to modern African cultures, including divine kingship, the use of headrests, body art, circumcision, and male coming-of-age rituals, all suggesting an African substratum or foundation for Egyptian civilization."[/b] - The Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt (2001) This in fact pretty much goes in line with the article from this thread which talks about an indigenous African origin for the Ancient Egyptian state. Same thing could be said about current aDNA data. [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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