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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: [qb] [b]About Nabta Playa from Rise and Fall of Ancient Egypt (excerpt):[/b] [IMG]http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y421/amunratheultimate2/Misc/NabtaPlaya-Originofpharaonicstonecarvingtext_zpse8a4bf9a.jpg[/IMG] From [i]The Rise and Fall of Ancient Egypt by Toby Wilkinson (2010)[/i] [/qb][/QUOTE][IMG]http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/08aug/cowstonenabtaplaya.jpg[/IMG] apparently the stone does have a triangular protrusion that you can't see at every angle, not a background object I had thought before _________________________________________________ Graham Hancocks website ( co -Author of books withRobert Bauval) post by Astrophysicist Thomas G. Brophy http://www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=8&i=20559&t=20514 Wilkinson on the cowstone -- partly true but confused Author: Thomas Brophy (99.184.251.---) Date: 23-May-11 22:45 Wilkinson, page 10, "..., and burying the animals in graves marked on the ground with large, flat stones. Under one such mound, archaeologists found not a cattle burial but a huge sandstone monolith that had been carefully shaped and dressed to resemble a cow. Dated, like the calendar circle, to the early fifth millenium B.C., it is the earliest known monumental sculpture from Egypt. Here are to be found the origins of pharonic stone carving ... Archaeologists have been forced to rethink their theories of Egypt's origins." Some problems with that passage: He says "under one such mound" meaning the young cattle burials, but the cowstone (CSA) was found in a totally separate area of the playa, and CSA was in a field of about 30 other similar complex structures -- none of which contain animal graves. And CSA was the centerpiece of the megalithic alignments. And the "large, flat stones" that covered CSA were very different than those covering the cattle burials found elsewhere (CSA stones were bigger, not all flat, arranged in a larger oval shape, and oriented differently). Less of a problem -- although the cowstone was very carefully shaped, as some in this thread have noted it is a stretch to say "shaped and dressed to resemble a cow". It is more likely it was symbolically cow plus something else -- cow plus sky/supernal/star. Another problem with the Wilkinson passage is he doesn't even mention the bedrock sculptures which are even older, and he doesn't mention the importance/meaning of all the other megaliths at NP. And directly after the above quoted passage he re-focusses on his old stomping grounds, the Eastern Desert. So, I suggest read Wilkinson, but to get the whole story and especially clarity about Nabta Playa and the other Western Desert sites, read Black Genesis. __________________________________ http://www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=8&i=20574&t=20514 Author: Pete Vanderzwet (67.193.88.---) Date: 25-May-11 07:30 Someone please explain this to me... How can you label it the "cowstone"? Seems so arbitrary and absolutely without value. ___________________________________________ http://www.grahamhancock.com/phorum/read.php?f=8&i=20602&t=20514 Author: Thomas Brophy (99.184.251.---) Date: 26-May-11 21:42 David Campbell wrote: > Prior to excavating the "cowstone", a number of tumuli tombs > containing young cattle dated to 5,500 BCE had been found. Upon > excavating the stone, Fred Wendorf thought it vaguely resembled > a cow and started speculating that it may have had something to > do with the later cult of Hathor. He probably had cows on his > mind when he first saw it. Personally, I don't see much > resemblence to a cow myself except for the triangular > protrusion which could be anything depending upon your > perspective. My impression is that the cowstone is much older > than the cattle tumuli as I have great difficulty accepting > Wendorf's scenario of quarrying it from an unseen bedrock > source several feet below layers of hard sediments, carving it, > and then, after all that trouble, burying it again. Somehow I > doubt the cattle tumuli builders even knew the cowstone was > there except possibly through old traditions coupled with > seasonal visits to the playa after it ceased to hold water year > round. Interesting thoughts there. The cattle tumuli were on the north side of the playa, actually in an ancient wadi that fed the playa sometimes, not actually in the playa. Whereas CSA (including cowstone) was smack in the southwest part of the playa, as the centerpiece of the megalith lines that radiate out to the norhteast and to the southeast -- all also in the playa. Wendorf did note that the cow resemblance was only "vague" and at one point said something like "or at least something with a head" -- referring to what you call the "triangular protrusion". Myself, when I first saw the cowstone I was most struck by its geometric forms -- the spherical section outer surface and the sharp cut upper surfaces, and I scoffed at the "cow" idea. But after learning more about all the cow symbolism at the site (the burials you mention), I can see how the best interpretation is probably both cow and sky symbolism. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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