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[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [QB] Truthcentric says: [b]who exaggerate Black African people's cultural and physical homogeneity are our loudest and most aggressive bedfellows, at least if Internet experience is anything to go by. For all their extremist zealotry, they've done more harm than good to our cause by reinforcing its "fringe" appearance. [/b] I would agree. Part of the problem is misguided "Afro enthusiasts" who are not grounded in facts, or hew to dogma, regardless of the facts, or insist on outmoded and obsolete ideas and data. On one hand are the racist /racialist types. On the other are the fringe elements. And on top of that you have those academics distorting and skewing the picture. Thankfully we have some more balanced ideas now coming to the fore, but these problems are not going away soon. [b]Though on the other hand, you do have to wonder why the North Sudanese, even after adopting the Arabic language and Islamic culture, still retain more indigenous African ancestry than Egyptians. What kept the Arabs, Greco-Romans, et cetera from colonizing Nubia to the extent they did Egypt? [/b] Anyone have any other ideas? My take is that the Egyptians expo/erienced more outside gene flow compared to say the less productive reasons of Sudan. In Greco/Roman times Egypt was the granary of the Medit. It had a good strategic location and fed the ROman empire. It was rich and productive. Hyskos, PErsians, Assyrians, Romans, Greeks and most of all Arabs (who havent left yet) swarmed in. The native population did not totally disappear but all these influences made significant changes- demographically, culturally, economically, etc etc Nubia and Kush did not have the hugely productive Nile stretch and strategic Medit/Middle Eastern location, like Egypt. It is amazing that they did what they did, with only a fraction of the resources, land and population, from their own writing system, to good ironworks, to renowned warriors employed throughout the middle east. And they were not merely copies of Egypt- heck in fact they may have pioneered aspects of Egypt's kingship system. If I remember didnt they hold off or at least stalemate Rome, as well as fight off Persians and Arabs for centuries? Tukler says: [b]Who needs Simon Says we got raw data all else is worth no more than opinion which everybody's got one. [/b] Exactly. One interesting thing about this discussion is how the Egyptolgists, who used to be the central gatekeepers, no longer are. They have been overshadowed some by more nimble modern sciences and approaches. DNA researchers or anthropologists using computer processing to analyze limb proportions, crania etc etc, climatologists and enviro scientists etc etc. all have opened up new vistas in studying the ancient Nile Valley. Egyptologists uses these tools too but people have moved ahead of the curve. Egyptologists influence, but no longer control the conservation. As for whining (if any) modern Egyptians, too bad, so sad. We don't need any of their validation. They can bluster all they want about the "taint" of "blackness" We don't need their approval. We have the hard data and scholarship on hand that blows away all of that whining. [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kPAu1CfGsw0/VMcSaPTT1TI/AAAAAAAABWE/lkLl8xO7hHc/s1600/anwar_sadat.jpg[/IMG] ^Yeah that's right. It was the black dude who pulled off "The Crossing" and the subsequent peace. His father, Anwar Mohammed El Sadat was an Upper Egyptian, and his mother, Sit Al-Berain, was a Sudanese from her father. Thus, he faced insults by his opponents in Egypt for not looking "Egyptian enough" and "Nasser's black poodle." But who got the job done against the Israelis? Ref: Khalid, Sunni M. (February 7, 2011). "The Root: Race And Racism Divide Egypt". npr.org. Retrieved March 3, 2011. http://www.npr.org/2011/02/07/133562448/the-root-egypts-race-problem [/QB][/QUOTE]
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