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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] I just told you every mtDNA haplogroup derives from L, the immediate sub branches M and N That does not mean every mtDNA haplogroup arose in Africa If you think haplogroup H, arose from L inside Africa then be a man and say it, stop playing games trying to test me [/qb][/QUOTE]No, you told something else as from now. Anyway, these oldest branches in Africa already had these T/C transitions. However, you still can't explain Taf VIII, and why these alleles were already present in the older "L" variants. Thus why the C-split of T/C, becomes Eurasian all of a sudden. Even though the basal is within Africa. :D [/QUOTE]Taf VIII is listed as L3 or M or N (M btw has highest diversity in India) If one specimen may or may not have been African or part African that does not mean you can disregard the alleles of all the other specimens -which is what you are doing [/qb][/QUOTE]The alleles sequenced were already in place in Africans long before they migrated out of Africa. What part don't you get about this? :D The T/C split already was in Africans before the left Africa, what part don't you get about this? C-split was already within Africa, what part don't you get about this? The small pockets of people who left Africa, to populate world carried these alleles along with them, what part don't you understand about this? Whether Hg M is highest diverse in Indian has nothing to do whit the subject at hand. We are speaking of the root of the locus, which is in Africa. Meaning it migrated out, not in! This is why Taf VIII is definitely African. As well as the others which arose from this older one. Fact is written in the old clades. [CODE] Geography Founder Analysis Migration Time (ka) % of L3 Lineages (SE) East Africa 58.8 74.0 (0.5) 1.8 20.1 (2.6) 0.1 5.9 (2.5) Central Africa 42.4 75.0 (2.7) 9.2 24.1 (2.8) 0.1 0.9 (0.2) North Africa 35.0 7.4 (2.7) 6.6 67.0 (4.0) 0.6 25.7 (3.1) South Africa 3.2 86.7 (4.3) 0.1 13.3 (4.3) South Africa (southern)1.8 83.4 (3.7) 0.1 16.6 (3.7) [/CODE][QUOTE] "This conclusion points to an ancient African gene flow to Tunisia [b]before 20,000 years BP[/b]" [...] Our results demonstrate an [b]ancient local evolution[/b] in Tunisia of some African haplogroups ([b]L2a[/b], L3*, and L3b). [/QUOTE]--Frigi et al. Human Biology (August 2010 (82:4) [QUOTE]Originally posted by Son of Ra:The fact that the Ethiopians and Somalis have a subset of the sub-Saharan African haplotype diversity—and that the non-African populations have a subset of the diversity present in Ethiopians and Somalis—makes simple-admixture models less likely;[/b] rather, these observations support the hypothesis proposed by other nuclear-genetic studies (Tishkoff et al. 1996a, 1998a, 1998b; Kidd et al. 1998)—that populations in northeastern Africa may have diverged from those in the rest of sub-Saharan Africa early in the history of modern African populations and [b]that a subset of this northeastern-African population migrated out of Africa and populated the rest of the globe.[/b][/QUOTE] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1287905/ Awesome post. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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