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[QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [QB] Yes Dr Winters. That is exactly my point. There are several things you need to consider. First is the placement of the haplogroup-(in this case hg-E) in the PhyloTree, 2nd the age of the mutation and 3rd the upstream clades. As my chart shows. The Nilo-Saharans and Click Speakers carry ALL combination of the upstream clades of hg-E , YAP and underived E, but the Bantus do NOT. Proving the Nilo-Saharans and the Click Speakers are the “parental” group. Next down the tree, the oldest sub-clade(M-35) is found in the Amazigh Tribal groups. Following that the youngest sub-clade is (M-2) found with the tropical West Africans. In fact the tropical West Africans do NOT carry a high frequency of the upstream clades …of hg-E. Therefore they were probably the last group, and recent, that migrated from the Nilo-Saharan region. This is borneout by the linguistics-tree I posted earlier which you disputed. To sum up. Bantus carry “ZERO” E-M35. E-M35 is 10,000 years older than M-2!! (see Table 1.Knight et al). - Beyoku is blowing smoke by trying to classify B2a, B2b(M112) as Bantu marker. It is NOT, it is a pygmy marker. [b]Quote by Dr Winters: xyyman you make it appears as if the Berbers are older than the Bantu but as you can see they carry many of the same E haplogroups; especially in relation to the Black Berbers who live in Morocco and the Atlas Mountains[/b] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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