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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by al~Takruri: [IMG]http://www.ephotobay.com/image/picture-1-8.png[/IMG] [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: Yes the original so-called Berbers were of African origin. But the people in Northwest Africa are not the original Berbers. They were given this name by the Europeans. The original people called Berbers lived in Libya. Not in the areas presently occupied by the white Berbers. These Berbers were Blacks--not white. [IMG]http://olmec98.net/rameses3.jpg[/IMG] [b]Reading the Egyptians from Left to Right: Rmt (Egyptian), Tjhnw (Libyans),Nhsy (Kushites) and Aamw (Syro-Palestinians). [/b] [/QUOTE][qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: . The iconographic evidence from Egypt, does not show the European physical type until the invasion of Egypt by the People of the Sea after 1200BC [/QUOTE][/qb] [IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img151/6310/hornungdistortiongz4.jpg[/IMG] ____________________________________________________LIBYANS^ Clyde I don't get it The above are Libyans, circa 1200 BC, you say of " European physical type" shown in iconographic evidence from Egypt That's about 1600 years before the Vandals So why do you keep talking about Vandals? [/qb][/QUOTE]There facial feutuers can't be seen very well, in the images you've posted. Let's look at some close ups. [IMG]http://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/eg/web-large/65.100.1_01.jpg[/IMG] Relief block with the heads of three Libyans Period: New Kingdom, Amarna Period Dynasty: Dynasty 18 Date: ca. 1353–1323 B.C. Geography: From Egypt, Upper Egypt; Thebes, Karnak Medium: Sandstone, paint Credit Line: Gift of Ernst E. Kofler, 1965 Accession Number: 65.100.1 [QUOTE]The sidelocks of the people on this relief block identify the men as Libyans. They need not be prisoners but could be members of the Egyptian army or envoys at a festival. As usual with sandstone relief pieces the block was part of a temple decoration at Karnak. [/QUOTE]--metmuseum [URL=http://www.ephotobay.com/share/picture-29-6.html] [IMG]http://www.ephotobay.com/image/picture-29-6.png[/IMG][/URL] This decorative tile from a royal palace made between 1184 and 1153 BC and found in Tell el-Yahudiyah shows a Libyan captive. --British Museum [IMG]http://patricia1957.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/img_1784.jpg?w=640&h=558[/IMG] limestone relief fragment was once part of a large composition showing a siege of a near eastern city. -- British Museum [IMG]http://oi50.tinypic.com/2lcoi78.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://oi54.tinypic.com/14vgpyf.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE] Evidence from throughout the Sahara indicates that the region experienced a cool, dry and windy climate during the last glacial period, followed by a wetter climate with the onset of the current interglacial, with humid conditions being fully established by around 10,000 years BP, [b]when we see the first evidence of a reoccupation of parts of the central Sahara by hunter gathers, most likely originating from sub-Saharan Africa [/b] (Cremaschi and Di Lernia, 1998; Goudie, 1992; Phillipson, 1993; Ritchie, 1994; Roberts, 1998). [...] Conical tumuli, platform burials and a V-type monument represent structures similar to those found in other Saharan regions and associated with human burials, appearing in sixth millennium BP onwards in northeast Niger and southwest Libya (Sivilli, 2002). In the latter area a shift in emphasis from faunal to human burials, complete by the early fifth millennium BP, has been interpreted by Di Lernia and Manzi (2002) as being associated with a changes in social organisation that occurred at a time of increasing aridity. While further research is required in order to place the funerary monuments of Western Sahara in their chronological context, we can postulate a similar process as a hypothesis to be tested, based on the high density of burial sites recorded in the 2002 survey. Fig. 2: Megaliths associated with tumulus burial (to right of frame), north of Tifariti (Fig. 1). A monument consisting of sixty five stelae was also of great interest; precise alignments north and east, a division of the area covered into separate units, and a deliberate scattering of quartzite inside the structure, are suggestive of an astronomical function associated with funerary rituals. Stelae are also associated with a number of burial sites, again suggesting dual funerary and astronomical functions (Figure 2). Further similarities with other Saharan regions are evident in the rock art recorded in the study area, although local stylistic developments are also apparent. Carvings of wild fauna at the site of Sluguilla resemble the Tazina style found in Algeria, Libya and Morocco (Pichler and Rodrigue, 2003), although examples of elephant and rhinoceros in a naturalistic style reminiscent of engravings from the central Sahara believed to date from the early Holocene are also present. [/QUOTE]--Nick Brooks et al. The prehistory of Western Sahara in a regional context: the archaeology of the "free zone" Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, Saharan Studies Programme and School of Environmental Sciences, University of East Anglia, Norwich, UK Coauthors: Di Lernia, Savino ((Department of Scienze Storiche, Archeologiche, e Antropologiche dell’Antichità, Faculty of Human Sciences, University of Rome “La Sapienza”, Via Palestro 63, 00185 – Rome, Italy) and Drake, Nick (Department of Geography, King’s College, Strand, London WC2R 2LS). [/QB][/QUOTE]
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