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[QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [QB] To the layman. The Table posted by Tukuler is all well and good. As Sage mentioned and I agree with, there are several factors that must be included to determine “origin”, frequency is one, but there are a few others, which include diversity AND matching haplotypes. Enaaffa Table shows diversity between North Africa and Southern Arabia to be about the same with a slight edge to Arabia on diversity. The Levant is NOT in the mix. But the rubber hits the road in a “close up” analysis on the diversity of H* between Arabia and North Africa. To clarify H* represents “unique” haplotypes(or mutations) within the mtDNA Haplogroup H. That means H* it does not really fall into any of the sub-clades(branches) of hg-H. Therefore, it is unque or H*. What Enaaffa is stating as Dr Winters pointed out and I missed it the first time around, is that the unqiue haplotypes of H* in Arabia and North Africa are DIFFERENT. Which means Arabians did NOT back-migrate to North Africa. If that was the case you would see a sub-set of Arabian H* IN North Africa. (this is what the bolded section Dr Winters posted by Enaaffa means). And the reverse would be seen if the migration was from NA to Arabia. Neither is the case. This means that these two populations are related but NOT ancestral to each other. They both have the SAME ancestral population. Babujani et al observed the similar relationship when he ccompared Etruscans aDNA with meditereanean populations. Rejecting the earlier hypothesis that the Etrruscans were Anatolians. He concluded that the Anatolians and Etruscans had the same ancestral population further “south”. Adsmittedly, he did not use the word Africa but “south” With the Ennaafa data, what is amazing also is that the Iberians who also have a high frequency of H*, albeit much lower than either North Africans and Arabians, their H* is a subset of North Africans. Proving that North Africa was the source of Iberians H* and ultimately H-sub-clades. I don’t know how I missed this for so long. And I thought Kefi 2014 would have the answer and this was kicking me in the face for sucha long time. I am open to all comers. Anyone……prove me wrong. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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