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[QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [QB] yaaaawwwnnn! More inetrestingly @ Lioness on your Bantu question. So is the Bantu migration a movement of people of technology? Bantus in South Eastern Africa are older than Bantus in West Africa. Read more: http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/1738/bantu-expansion-occur?page=1#scrollTo=10791#ixzz3CTPwXIAx Did the Bantu expansion really occur? Lioness at ES challenge me on this question, My initially reaction was, no, it did not occur but I decided to dig deeper on what really is the “Bantu Expansion”. Typical of my MO I look at the topic strictly from a genetic point of view, first. Which is, is there a clear genetic gradient from the supposedly Bantu homeland along through the Bantu dispersal route? Or is there a separation of Eastern Bantu’s and Western Bantu’s and to my surprise not only is the Eastern Bantu older than the Western Bantu’s but the Bantu expansion may have originated along the Nile and NOT in West Africa as is the popular belief. I am open to any criticism to my observation. So far the Linguistics and the genetics seem to isolate the Bantu origin IN Eastern Africa. Maybe someone will hit me up on the archeological and anthropological evidence of the Bantu expansion starting in Western Africa then spreading South and East. So far I am getting conflicting answers. They are discussed below. I will start off with DNATribes statement made recently that ancestral Bantu population existed in Yemen PRIOR to the Neolithic(ie EEF). Then we have Kivilsid (Gates of Tears paper), Mozambique and Yeminese have closer haplotype matches than Yemen and Ethiopians. When hg-M and hg-N is thrown in the mix the data is skewed giving the appearance that Yemen and Horners have closer genetic affinity. Looking at this paper it hit me like a lightening bolt – that Mozambique Bantus are older than the occupation of Africans IN West Africa. So is the Bantu migration a movement of people of technology? Bantus in South Eastern Africa are older than Bantus in West Africa. Quote: These results suggest that the Bantu expansion of languages, which started 5000 years ago at the present day border region of Nigeria and Cameroon, and was probably related to the spread of agriculture and the emergence of iron technology,17–19 [b]WAS NOT A DEMOGRAPHIC HOMOGENEOUS MIGRATION WITH POPULATION REPLACEMENT IN THE SOUTHERNMOST PART OF THE CONTINENT, [/b]but acquired more divergence, likely because of the integration of pre-Bantu people. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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