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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BlessedbyHorus: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Gor: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by BlessedbyHorus: [qb] ^^^I don't know why Eurocentrics always overlook that? Good point. [/qb][/QUOTE]If there is good evidence against what I post i will retract my claim. I will do so here. Looking at the limb study abstract, it says Ramesses II doesn't match the others, furthermore he was reddish haired, so what about this? Redheaded Pharaoh Ramesses II http://marchofthetitans.com/earlson/rameses.htm [/qb][/QUOTE]Which limb studies state that Ramses II does not match with other Africans? Also in your link the argument they suggest is that Ramses like other Egyptians(and Africans) dyed his hair red via henna. But more importantly Ramses having natural red hair has been debunked numerous times. But more importantly a widely known X-Ray study done on both 19th Dynasty(Ramses II dynasty) and 20th Dynasty: [QUOTE]The XVIV Dynasty is [b]higher in ANB and SN-M Plane than the XX Dynasty[/b]. Ramesses IV is the only one in these two dynasties with strong alveolar prognathism, at least, as indicated by SNA. However, dental alveolar prognathism is quite common in both dynasties. [b]Also, both have ANB and SN- M Plane at mean angles higher than even African Americans.[/b] [b]In terms of head shape, the XVIV and XX dynasties look more like the early Nubian skulls from the mesolithic with low vaults and sloping, curved foreheads.[/b] The XVII and XVIII dynasty skulls are shaped more like modern Nubians with globular skulls and high vaults. Merenptah, Siptah and Ramesses V all have pronounced glabellae. Ramesses IV has a bulging occiput similar to the "Elder Lady." Ramesses II and his son, Merenptah, both have rather weakly inclined mandibles with long ramus. Ramesses II's father, Seti I, does not possess this feature, though, suggesting that this was inherited from Ramesses II's mother, Queen Mut-Tuy. The gonial angle of Seti I is 116.3 compared to 107.9 and 109 for Ramesses II and Merenptah respectively. The XVIV and XX dynasty heads do not have steep foreheads, receding zygomatic arches or prominent chins. Generally, both glabella and occiput are rounded and projecting to varying degrees. The sagittal contour is usually flattened, at least to some degree, although this sometimes begins before the bregma rather than in post-bregmatic position. The whole mandible is rarely squarish, although the body sometimes has a wavy edge. [b]The latter feature, though, is very common in both ancient and modern Nubians. According to Gill (1986), an undulating mandible is a characteristic of Negroids.[/b] The difference between late XVII and XVIII dynasty royal mummies and contemporary Nubians is slight. During the XVIV and XX dynasties we see possibly some mixing between a Nubian element that is more similar to Mesolithic Nubians (low vaults, sloping frontal bone, etc.), with an orthognathous population. [b]Since the Ramessides were of northern extraction, this could represent miscegenation with modern Mediterraneans of Levantine type. The projecting zygomatic arches of Seti I suggest remnants of the old Natufian/Tasian types of the Holocene period.[/b] If the heads of Queens Nodjme and Esemkhebe are any indication, there may have been a new influx of southern blood during the XXI Dynasty. In summation, the New Kingdom Pharaohs and Queens whose mummies have been recovered bear strong similarity to either contemporary Nubians, as with the XVII and XVIII dynasties, or with Mesolithic-Holocene Nubians, as with the XVIV and XX dynasties. [b]The former dynasties seem to have a strong southern affinity, while the latter possessed evidence of mixing with modern Mediterranean types and also, possibly, with remnants of the old Tasian and Natufian populations.[/b] From the few sample available from the XXI Dynasty, there may have been a new infusion from the south at this period.[/QUOTE]James Harris from Edward Wente, X-ray Atlas of the Royal Mummies (Chicago: University of Chicago, 1980) So I'm curious to know which study states Ramses II and his dynasty does not match with other Africans? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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