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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE][i]What we like to think of as "philosophic thought" first appears in Greece in a poem, Theogony , written by Hesiod about 725 B.C.; the Theogony retells the myths of the gods and speculates in part about the origins of things and the order of the universe...[/i][/QUOTE]Actually, the Theogony is mainly derived from Canaanite or Levantine mythology as per Sanchuniathon. [QUOTE][i]What we generally call "Greek philosophy" was almost certainly derived by the Greeks from Egyptian culture, particularly natural science (physics and math) which preoccupied Greek thought up to the time of Plato. The Greeks seem also to have derived much of their philosophical theology from the Egyptians as well. These are not modern interpretations of Greek philosophy; the ancient Greeks themselves claim without dissension that their philosophy comes from Egypt.[/i][/QUOTE]Which is exactly why I questioned how James or others could call such Greek traditions a "stolen legacy" in the first place! If the Greeks openly proclaim to have inherited such cultural aspects from the Egyptians how could it be "stolen"?? Nevermind the troll akoben using this topic as a strawman for his own bigotted agendas. [QUOTE][i]Whether the Greeks travelled to Egypt or whether the Egyptians colonized or visited Greece at some point (which is what the ancient Greeks thought) is a difficult question to answer.[/i][/QUOTE]This is exactly what I meant. That is [i]which[/i] philosophic traditions were taken from Egypt and at what time period? What James proposes in his book [i]Stolen Legacy[/i] does not make any historical sense. The Library of Alexandria was built years after Alexander conquered Egypt therefore the Aristolte [i]let alone[/i] his predecessors cannot have "stolen" anything from the Library as the foundation of their philosophy! If one wants to find Egyptian influence in not only philosophy but any kind of cultural attribute in Greece, one needs to look further back in time well before Alexander or the Hellenistic period. [QUOTE][i]Pythagoreanism began towards the end of the 6th century in the Greek cities in southern Italy; this school sought an intellectual foundation for a certain religious way of life, and was more abstract and mathematical than the Milesians (and much more heavily influenced by Egyptian thought). Much of their thought remains completely obscure and impenetrable. They principally sought to purify the soul by strict rules of life; they believed in metempsychosis (the transmigration of souls to animals and even plants); and they found the essential unity of things to lie not in a physical substrate but in number and numerical relations. For the Pythagoreans, the one thing that formed the substrate of all the infinite things in the universe was number.[/i] http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/GREECE/PRESOC.HTM ©1996, Richard Hooker[/QUOTE]This is what I want to know. Which aspects of philosophy was influence from Egypt and which was truly Greek. I have only read about the 'Mystery Schools' of Greece and Pythagoras but how true are the claims that early Greek philosophers actually studied in Egypt?? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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