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[QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [QB] I doubt you've [i]studied[/i] James. Until you start citing him in your refutations I'm not bothering to respond after this post. [QUOTE][i] But now that we have examined these matters [URL=http://www]we must enumerate what [b]Greeks[/b], who have won fame for their wisdom and learning, [b]visited Egypt in ancient times in order to become acquainted with its customs and learning[/b][/URL]. For the priests of Egypt recount from the records of their sacred books that they were visited in early times by Orpheus, Musaeus, Melampus, and Daedalus, also by the poet [b]Homer[/b] and [b]Lycurgus[/b] of Sparta, later by [b]Solon[/b] of Athens and the philosopher [b]Plato[/b], and that there came also [b]Pythagoras[/b] of Samos and the mathematician [b]Eudoxus[/b], as well as [b]Democritus[/b] of Abdera and [b]Oenopides[/b] of Chios. As evidence for the visits of all these men they point in some cases to their statues and in others to places or buildings which bear their names, and they offer proofs from the branch of learning which each one of these men pursued, arguing that [URL=http://www.]all the things for which they were admired among the Greeks were [b]borrowed from Egypt[/b][/URL]. Orpheus, for instance, brought from Egypt most of his mystic ceremonies, the orgiastic rites that accompanied his wanderings, and his fabulous account of his experiences in Hades. For the rite of Osiris is the same as that of Dionysus, and that of Isis very similar to that of Demeter, the names alone having been interchanged; and the punishments in Hades of the unrighteous, the Fields of the Righteous, and the fantastic conceptions, current among the many, which are figments of the imagination — all these were introduced by Orpheus in imitation of Egyptian funeral customs. And as proof of the presence of Homer they adduce various pieces of evidence , and especially the healing drink which brings forgetfulness of all past evils, which was given by Helen to Telemachus in the home of Menelaus [in Book Four of the Odyssey] ... for, they allege, even to this day the women of this city [Thebes in Egypt] use this powerful remedy. [b]Lycurgus[/b] also and [b]Plato[/b] and [b]Solon[/b], they say, [URL=http://www.]incorporated many Egyptian customs into their own legislation. And [b]Pythagoras[/b] learned from Egyptians his teachings about the gods, his geometrical propositions and theory of numbers, as well as the transmigration of souls into every living thing.[/URL][/i][b] Diodorus Siculus[/b][i] Library of History, Book I, 96-98[/i] [/QUOTE]How can you or anyone look at a plane side of the Great Pyramid and then accredit the [b]Square of the Hypotenuse[/b] as a [i]Pythagorean[/i] Theorem? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] ^ And again, I agree with [i]some[/i] things that James says-- that there are Egyptian and Asian roots to Greece's philosophic and other origins-- but question other things. Like for example these mystery schools. Again that I doubt the possibility but [URL=http://www.]where exactly is the historical evidence that the Egyptians trained foreigners in their sacred lore[/URL]? [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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