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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by TheAmericanPatriot: [qb] Doug, I hjave heard some really stupid comments in a lifetime of teaching but some of you guys win the prize. You guys nit pick and scratch around here there and everywhere to try to find some thread with which you can prop up these absurd views you hold. Just study classical greece, that is all you have to do. Study without the object of in mind of looking for pieces of straw to support an already established view you have. There is no substitute for an education Doug. It is never too late. When you buy into this political afrocentric garbage you guys promote you are simply wasting your life as nothing can ever come of it. Thousands of teachers every day day are teaching students that Greece is the foundation of western civilization. Today, thousands of teachers are teaching students that the genius of greece was home grown. That Doug and Djehuti think otherwise is of no account. [/qb][/QUOTE]What does "Western Civilization" have to do with ancient Greece? "Western Civilization" did not exist 2,500 years ago. So how is that relevant to the origins and development of Greek culture and civilizations and the role of Eastern and African civilizations in its development? Ancient Greece is not "Western Civilization" they are not the same and anyone who makes the claim that they are is a liar. But that is to complex for you to understand, which is why when I provide FACTS on the influence on the development of ancient Greek art, architecture and thought, you talk about "Western Civilization". That has NOTHING to do with the sources cited and the fact that "classical scholars" openly admit that there were MANY influences from the east on ancient Greek culture. As usual you FLUNK again for trying to equate "Western Civilization" with ancient Greece, when NO classical scholar considers the two as being one and the same. Now, lets dissect some of the ACTUAL teachings about "Western Civilization" and how it is REALLY a bunch of nonsense. Europe for most of its history was NOT democratic. The idea that Western Civilization is based around "values" of peace, freedom and human rights is BULL SH*T. It is a farce designed to give European colonial empires and their offspring an aura of righteousness that they do not deserve. Like I said, most of Europe's history was made up rulers who believed they were GOD KINGS, including Alexander and his generals. Not to mention that SLAVERY was an important part of ALL European cultures, INCLUDING the Greeks. But back to the point, there WAS NO "Western civilization" prior to 1492. Europe was a backwater and on the RECEIVING end of cultural transmissions from THE EAST. And THAT is the beginning of "Western Civilization" with Europe'e expansion around the world with the INTENT TO TAKE OVER the trade routes and economies of the CIVILIZED WORLD. It had nothing to do with peace, Columbus was not on a mission to civilize he was on a mission to take over Indian trade routes. With the discovery of America, Spain was on a mission to CONQUER the "new land" and SUBJUGATE and ENSLAVE IT. Tens if not hundreds of millions of people perished in the subsequent violent expansion of European interests around the globe as the DIRECT genocidal POLICIES of the ruling monarchs, ALL of whom considered themselves GOD KINGS and able to do whatever they wanted as being such. Human rights and freedoms were NOT a primary concern here. Concerning philosophy, lets look at some of the struggles and battles that took place in Europe and the influence of Greek thought. The principle idea that is said to have been so important in Europe is the development of natural law, which is said to have come from the Greek philosophy of the Stoics. But what is natural law other than the law of maat, which is the embodiment of "natural law" or the natural state of balance in the human temperament as symbolized by weighing the heart in the halls of Maat? Maat as symbolized by balance and the twofold truth is the basis of the logic of the Stoics (good vs bad, light vs dark, being vs non being, truth vs lie). And the stoic ideal of a balanced ideal life with a heart was not troubled was the epitome of Maat and something espoused by all the WISDOM texts of ancient Egypt, which was something passed on by the scribes who called themselves "right of speech". [/QB][/QUOTE]
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