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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [qb] The statement: Modern North Africans' recent origin is outside Africa The above peoples are all mostly ABOVE the Saharan line. But apparently, they ain't "authentically" North African enough.. Maybe they ain't "really" black... [/qb][/QUOTE]Their clue here is to claim them as the desandants of slaves. They wrote the same on Siwa Berbers. That's the gameplay, as they quicly shift: [i]In this latter case, it was possible to delimit where this genetic exchange took place. It was a result of a recent migration, about 24-30 generations ago (750-900 years) at the height of the Great Berber Empires and [b]the slave trade through the Sahara desert, which was established in this region during that period[/b].[/i] Of which slavetrade through the desert do they speak (750-900 years)? And who exactly was enslaved? Do they mean the return was (750-900 years)? The second largest paragroup is J1 I believe? However, the paragroup of North Africa, east and west is E-M78. The Masalit and Fur are the ancestral carriers of the paragroup. And E-M78 itself arose at lake Nuba. Yet, it is eurasian? [QUOTE] Haplogroup E (four different haplo- types) accounts for the majority (34.4%) of the chromo- some and is widespread in the Sudan. [b]E-M78 represents 74.5% of haplogroup E, the highest frequencies observed in Masalit and Fur populations.[/b] [/QUOTE]--Hisham Y. Hassan,1 Peter A. Underhill,2 Luca L. Cavalli-Sforza,2 and Muntaser E. Ibrahim1* Y-Chromosome Variation Among Sudanese: Restricted Gene Flow, Concordance With Language, Geography, and History AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PHYSICAL ANTHROPOLOGY 000:000–000 (2008) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18618658 [QUOTE] Y-chromosome haplogroup tree The Y-chromosome haplogroup tree has been constructed manually following YCC 2008 nomenclature20 with some modifications.35 The tree (Supplementary Figure S1) contains the E haplogroups of Eritrean populations from this study and those reported in the literature.22–34 Genotyping results for E-V13, E-V12, E-V22 and E-V32 reported for Eritrean samples and elsewhere23,27 were retracted to E-M78 haplogroup level. All the analyses in this study were done at the same resolution using the following 17 bi-allelic markers: E-M96, E-M33, E-P2, E-M2, E-M58, E-M191, E-M154, E-M329, E-M215, E-M35, E-M78, E-M81, E-M123, E-M34, E-V6, E-V16/E-M281 and E-M75.[/QUOTE]--Eyoab I Gebremeskel1,2 and Muntaser E Ibrahim1 Y-chromosome E haplogroups: their distribution and implication to the origin of Afro-Asiatic languages and pastoralism (2014) EJHGOpen http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v22/n12/full/ejhg201441a.html [/QB][/QUOTE]
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