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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: [QB] More on Mathilda37 comment section. It's pure comedy though. uraeus | July 28, 2008 at 9:36 pm | Reply Dear mathilda. I am a kabyle Berber[Amazigh], I am of pure Kabyle stock, and do not have any sub-saharan DNA. Where do you get this nonsense that Berbers have 25% sub-saharan DNA, [b]I have had my DNA tested and I am E3b2 now known as E3b1b. And my mitochondrial DNA has no trace of sub-saharan DNA. [/b] Not all Berbers have mixed with sub-saharans, I think that you will find that the Kabyle and the Riff Berbers and many more Tribes are of pure Berber stock. [b]For your information my mother had urburn coloured hair and my father was blond.I, myself have black hair, my brother has brown, my sister blond and she has bright blue eyes like my mother.[/b] mathilda37 | July 29, 2008 at 10:20 am | Reply You have no idea how many arguments I have over this subject. And that 25% is maternal only, the overall total is a bit less. ‘Berber’ covers a lot of ground, Uraeus. [b]It includes the Tuareg and they are mostly black. The Kabyle and Northern Moroccans have very little sub Saharan ancestry in them.[/b] But if you add up all the berbers (including those in Northern Mali) that’s the average you get. You know, I keep telling black Americans that Moroccan Berbers get insulted if you call them black, but they never believe me. Well, here’s the proof. uraeus | September 15, 2008 at 3:06 pm | Reply Dear matilda [b]The tuareg are not actually Berbers,they are more closely related to the Beja people of the Sudan, from which they broke away some 5,000 thousand years ago or so, as their DNA proves[/b], yes they do speak a Berber dialect, after entering the Berber territories they came under the tutelage of the Berbers thus speaking a Berber dialect. They are also not black, the black ones are called Haratin, and are the descendants of the Tuareg slaves; who now live like the Tuareg. mathilda37 | September 17, 2008 at 9:15 am | Reply [i]You wouldn’t believe how often I hear Tuaregs being touted as ‘the only real Berbers’ by black Americans…[/i] [b]They have some Berber specific DNA in them, just not much.[/b] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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