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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: 2) citation: "FThe data shows that the ancestors of today's North Africans were a group of populations which already lived in the region around thirteen thousand years ago. Furthermore, this local North African genetic component is very different from the one found in the populations in the south of the Sahara, which shows that the ancestors of today's North Africans were members of a subgroup of humanity who left Africa to conquer the rest of the world and who subsequently returned to the north of the continent to settle in the region.". I assume they speak of E-M78, E-M81 and so on...? What do,you think? [/QUOTE]Although the Siwa don't carry M81 the other berbers do and it's mainly a Maghreb haplgroup except for some Tuaregs in Burkino Faso and Mali. Many of the Mahgreb berbers have high frequencies of mtDNA H but that is not considered "native" The above Universitat Pompeu Fabra statement is not explained. I can't figure out the exact intent. It's poorly conceived in my opinion It's better to take out one or two David Comas statements and deal with them Or better yet you could email Universitat Pompeu Fabra and find out what genes they are talking about [/qb][/QUOTE]LOL you are straight up comedy. --Firstly, E-M81 is the most common haplogroup in North Africa showing its highest concentrations in Northwestern Africa (76 % in Saharawis in Morocco (Arredi et al., 2004)) [/QUOTE]You are speaking about M81 in Morocco like it's some correction to what I said. Yet I said it's mainly a Maghreb haplogroup. This means you must not know that Morocco is in the Maghreb. Yes that is comical [QUOTE]Originally posted by Troll Patrol # Ish Gebor: --Besides, Ottoni et al., (2011) have reported that E-M81 appear to constitute a common paternal genetic matrix in the Tuareg populations where it was encountered at high frequency (89 %). [/QUOTE]You are speaking about M81 carried by the Tuareg like it's some correction to what I said. Yet I said it's mainly a Maghreb haplogroup. This means you must not know that Libya is in the Maghreb. Yes that is comical You are speaking about Claudio Ottoni who wrote about the Libyan Tuareg like it's something new to me. The fact that you forgot I have posted about Ottoni's articles many many times and you posted in those same threads is quite comical. [/qb][/QUOTE]Is E-M78 the paragroup in Northwest Africa or not? It must mean I do not you know Libya is in the Magreb? Libya is Northeast Africa. Not Northwest Africa. So, we know know that E-V68 arose in Sudan, a neighboring country of Libya. And E-M81 becomes local to the Magreb. We also know now that the Tuareg and West Saharans are the main carriers of this gene pool. We also know the origin of "Berber" you know as a linguistic group. LOL How have I forgotten to post on Ottoni's articles? LOL Have you forgotten the Barbary coast pirates and invasions from Europe and middle east, as well as the enslavemnt of europenas, Orientalism? Indeed it's comical. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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