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If some of the prominent dynastic Egyptians were 25% Eurasian would it bother you?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ethan: [qb] Since Horn of Africa populations are more Eurasian than 25%, even excluding semitic-speaking populations like Amhara or Tigray people for instance(who are almost 50-50), it's almost impossible that most Ancient Egyptian populations were any less than 50% Eurasian. The study about Sudan (Dobon et al.) shows Beja people (speaking a very basal language in the Cushitic branch) are even more Eurasian than semitic-speaking populations of Eritrea-Ethiopia. Beja people being the closest Afroasiatic speaking population to Egyptian geographically (excluding Asian Bedouins and the atypical Siwa berberophones), they should represent a good-proxy for AEs if you don't like modern Copts. [/qb][/QUOTE]In terms of Dobon et al, how do you know that [i]some[/i] of the Beja component you interpret as their 'African side' is not the result of their historic interactions with their Nilote Sudanese kin, and that [i]some[/i] of their so-called "Eurasian" component is not what they and Cushitic speaking Ethiopians always had? I mean, some papers list this 'African side' in Bejas as averaging just ~33%. It would be interesting to see someone explain [i]in detail[/i] how just 33% African ancestry results in a Beja phenotype, with dark skin, appreciable frequencies of individuals with afros and everything. Genetic test have been conducted and what you call "Eurasian" among these people does not fit the oft-touted scenarios that it's a transplant from the Levant or Arabia. [/qb][/QUOTE]Indeed, modern populations not necessarily reflect the ancient populations of the same region. Also, I can't help but notice that ever since Egyptologists have noted a close similarity between the Beja and ancient Egyptians both in appearance and in language, many are quick to latch on to studies about Beja being Eurasian admixed such as the Hassan et al. 2008 study. The problem with this is that the Beja ethnic group is not as homogeneous as many think. The Beja are divided into 9 clans such as the Bisharin, Hedareb, Hadendoa, Amarar, Beni-Amer, Hallenga, etc. etc. It is a historical [i]fact[/i] that many of these clans have intermarried with surrounding neighbors with some intermarrying with Nilo-Saharan speakers while other, especially more prominent clans have intermarried with [b]Arab[/b] bedouin. Therefore modern Beja being reflective of their ancient ancestors is as much accurate as modern Egyptians being reflective of theirs. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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