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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by xyyman: [qb] You really have a bad habit of posting on old stuff. This was discussed already back when it first came out. I posted on it. See ESR. Bottom line, as usual the headliner is what it is..,. a headliner and a lie. Look through the Supplemental. The data shows the Neolithic came from the “south”. What is south of Crete? Answer=Africa. The author did not explicitly say…Africa. He used the word they came from the “south”. Sources cited. Why did he come to that conclusion? Because the unique haplotypes of mtDNA H is found in the south and NOT on the mainland Europe. The mainland has higher frequency but NOT unique haplotypes. Kefi et al confirmed that in 2014. Stop misleading the readers!!!!! [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Amun-Ra The Ultimate: t http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/full/ncomms2871.html [b]A European population in Minoan Bronze Age Crete[/b] 2012 Our results strongly suggest that the principal matrilineal genetic relationships of the Minoans are with Neolithic, ancient and modern European populations. Such findings are in support of the hypothesis of an autochthonous origin of the Minoan civilization by the descendants of the Neolithic settlers of the island4, [/qb][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE]You continue to not know what "Neolithic" means, you do do not no the origin of the term and you have never posted a definition of it or named a Neolithic site in Africa "Neolithic" is a technological term it is not an ethnic group. There are Neolithic sites in Europe and elsewhere. The simple fact is that Minoans had mtDNA in common with with Neolithic, ancient and modern European populations. The majority of Minoans were classified in haplogroups H (43.2%), T (18.9%), K (16.2%) and I (8.1%). Haplogroups U5A, W, J2, U, X and J were each identified in a single individual -so the term "neolithic" is not even relevant to that point and you bringing it up is therefore a diversion. For instance if you were to say that the original settlers of Minoan form Anatolia an Iraq were not Neolithic is irrelevant to the fact that Minoan DNA is more similar to European DNA than it is to African DNA ____________________________________ http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1004401 2014 [b]Ancient DNA Analysis of 8000 B.C. Near Eastern Farmers Supports an Early Neolithic Pioneer Maritime Colonization of Mainland Europe through Cyprus and the Aegean Islands[/b] Eva Fernández , Alejandro Pérez-Pérez, Cristina Gamba, Eva Prats, Pedro Cuesta, Josep Anfruns, Miquel Molist, Eduardo Arroyo-Pardo, Daniel Turbón Published: June 5, 2014http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pgen.1004401 Abstract The genetic impact associated to the Neolithic spread in Europe has been widely debated over the last 20 years. Within this context, ancient DNA studies have provided a more reliable picture by directly analyzing the protagonist populations at different regions in Europe. However, the lack of available data from the original Near Eastern farmers has limited the achieved conclusions, preventing the formulation of continental models of Neolithic expansion. Here we address this issue by presenting mitochondrial DNA data of the original Near-Eastern Neolithic communities with the aim of providing the adequate background for the interpretation of Neolithic genetic data from European samples. Sixty-three skeletons from the Pre Pottery Neolithic B (PPNB) sites of Tell Halula, Tell Ramad and Dja'de El Mughara dating between 8,700–6,600 cal. B.C. were analyzed, and 15 validated mitochondrial DNA profiles were recovered. In order to estimate the demographic contribution of the first farmers to both Central European and Western Mediterranean Neolithic cultures, haplotype and haplogroup diversities in the PPNB sample were compared using phylogeographic and population genetic analyses to available ancient DNA data from human remains belonging to the Linearbandkeramik-Alföldi Vonaldiszes Kerámia and Cardial/Epicardial cultures. We also searched for possible signatures of the original Neolithic expansion over the modern Near Eastern and South European genetic pools, and tried to infer possible routes of expansion by comparing the obtained results to a database of 60 modern populations from both regions. Comparisons performed among the 3 ancient datasets allowed us to identify K and N-derived mitochondrial DNA haplogroups as potential markers of the Neolithic expansion, whose genetic signature would have reached both the Iberian coasts and the Central European plain. Moreover, the observed genetic affinities between the PPNB samples and the modern populations of Cyprus and Crete seem to suggest that the Neolithic was first introduced into Europe through pioneer seafaring colonization. ___________________________ Again "Neolithic" means in a given area the first farmers and stone tool users in that particular area. "Neolithic" is not an ethnic group and it's definition is irrelevant to DNA comparisons of human remains, such analysis do not change in relation to if the word "neolithic" is used or not, stop the ongoing nonsense. look at the genetic data [/QB][/QUOTE]
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