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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nodnarb: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Punos_Rey: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [b]How would are they going through tortuous loops if the sources referenced above in part, do suggest some Kushite ancestry?[/b] [2] Memoirs of Ptolemy VIII, quoted in Athenaeus 13.576e-f; Asclepiades, Anthologia Palatina 5.210. The Didyme of Asclepiades' epigram is not certainly the mistress of Ptolemy II, but the proposal to identify them seems very plausible. Because Asclepiades calls her "black" and compares her colour to coal, S. B. Pomeroy (Women in Hellenistic Egypt, 55) unreservedly describes her as an Ethiopian. [b]While possible, A. Cameron, GRBS 31 (1990) 287, noting that Ptolemy VIII characterises her as a "native", that Greeks considered the Egyptians "black", and that Didyme is a very common Egyptian name, concludes, I think correctly, that "we have every right to expect an Egyptian".[/b] [b]F. M. Snowden Jr, GRBS 32 (1991) 239, argues against Cameron that, even though people of Nubian ancestry with black skin were well integrated into Egyptian society, Graeco-Roman practice was to reserve deep black for Ethiopian (Nubian/Meroitic) origin.[/b] He speculates that Didyme may have been captured by Ptolemy II in his Meroitic expedition of c. 275, and that she may even, like Verdi's Aida, have been the daughter of an Ethiopian king. As much as I would love to argue for a dynastic link between the Ptolemies and the kings of Meroe, I don't find Snowden's reasoning very coherent -- if Nubians were well-integrated into Egyptian society why could she not have been an Egyptian of Nubian ancestry? But it is interesting to note that Verdi's libretto was based on a story idea proposed by the French Egyptologist Maspero, who was certainly aware of Didyme's existence. [/QUOTE]The *loops* being the automatic equation of blackness with Kushite (and more importantly non-Egyptian ancestry), as if the AE were not black themselves. Same thing when they make sensationalist crap like that "Black Pharaohs" documentary. Nubia/Kush's uncontestable blackness is used against the notion of Egypt's indigenous citizenry being black. Both Snowden and Lefkowitz try and pull this. [/qb][/QUOTE]This. You can tell they're struggling to parse Didyme's descriptions through their ingrained preconceptions of what ancient Egyptians and Kushites would have looked like. It doesn't seem to occur to them that maybe those preconceptions might be in error in the first place. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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