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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the questioner: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Tukuler: [qb] As usual, thx 4/t Classical Era background clarity. now ... Devil's Advocate here. So, Washington and Jefferson's yte legitimate kids are [i]probably[/i] 1/2 blk cos father sired mulatto bastard kids on no-choice-but-to-fuck-'massa' blk girls? Does the same logic hold to judge Mai Iluma's kids on a Bornu wife as 1/2 Turk since he had kids on a Circassian sex slave girl or two? Logical probability or special pleading fallacy? =-=-=-= Ah, the poor poor Ptolemies Greeks to Egyptians Egyptians to Romans Poor Cleo a skilled extremely talented and decent person a teen queen adept at intrigue trying to save and expand her decadent realm vilified by Greco-Latin authors mythologized by all ever after =-=-=-= Back before "Afrocentric" became the buzz, the degreed ones were clear that "blk Cleo" et al are not the concern of Afrocentrism. [QUOTE] The main point made by Afrocentrists is that Greece owes a substantial debt to Egypt and that Egypt was anterior to Greece and should be considered a major contributor to our current knowledge. [b][URL=http://ndrln]I think I can say without a doubt that Afrocentrists do not spend time arguing that either Socrates or Cleopatra were black. I have never seen these ideas written by an Afrocentrist nor have I heard them discussed in any Afrocentric [i]intellectual[/i] forums.[/URL][/b] Professor Lefkowitz provides us with a hearsay incident which she probably reports accurately. It is not an Afrocentric argument. Dr. Molefi Kete Asante Race in Antiquity Published 5/19/2009[/QUOTE]. =-=-=-= Can somebody please vet the two pertinent words below for valid translation from the primary Latin document? [IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/L6y3d7Cm/Ms-Cleo-s-complexion-a.png[/IMG] [IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/bNY9B8R6/Ms-Cleo-s-complexion-b.png[/IMG] in keeping with my profile signature below re Africana [/qb][/QUOTE]The original Latin Discubuere illic reges, maiorque potestas Caesar: et immodice formam fucata nocentem, Nec sceptris contenta suis, nec fratre marito, Plena maris rubri spoliis, colloque comisque Divitias Cleopatra gerit, cultuque laborat. [b]Candida Sidonio perlucent pectora filo[/b] , Quod Nilotis acus compressum pectine Serum Solvit, et extenso laxavit stamina velo. Lucan Pharsalia book 10 This may be a reference to the White garment rather than the white skin of Cleopatra. See through white garments was common in Ancient Egypt. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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