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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Antalas: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: So just exactly what do you mean by a 'North African' look? North Africans vary from white blonde or red-headed coastal Berbers, and white Alexandrian Greeks and Circassians, to dark brown (black) Tuaregs, Moors, or Baladi (indigenous) Egyptians and variation in between including brown-skinned pure Arabs vs. fairer skinned Turks and Circassians. Yes the Arabs proper were invaders but so were a variety of peoples who invaded Egypt before them. 'Arab' largely describes the predominant language and culture, but it says little about the actual people. Do you realize that ethnic Arab Egyptians still look down upon and discriminate against the [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=010230]ethnic Baladi[/URL] Egyptians not only for their dark skin but for racial stereotypes that are surprisingly not much different from those traditionally held by whites for blacks in America??[/QUOTE]I meant that they already looked like the average north african and would have probably be considered as "arab looking" by afro-americans like yourself if they were alive today. Also I don't see why you equate "invasion" with replacement/changes and such "invasions" could have occured and did occured even before historical times. Population living in Europe or West Asia didn't wait "hyksos" or "arabs" to settle in North Africa. And I don't see why you bring colorism into this discussion but Egyptians like any other "arab" populations have a long lasting history of slavery which mostly involved dark skinned populations. So don't be surprised if in countries like Morocco "abid" became synonymous of "black" nor should you be surprised when modern egyptians express such feelings. [QUOTE]Sir, I just cited a paper from Irish and even quoted him? I suggest you scroll up and read what he wrote. The Hawara sample differed from the Greek and Asiatic ones as being [b]African[/b] in affinity. Now can you provide a source showing Eurasian admixture in Egypt going back to the paleolithic?? :confused: [/QB][/QUOTE]How is this a proof they had no eurasian admixture ? You said it yourself : north africans already show such affinity and yet they are predominantly eurasian genetically + they show similarities with the Badarian samples which clearly show eurasian affinities unlike for example the pure negroids from Jebel Sahaba. ANd are you seriously denying paleolithic and neolithic back migrations to Africa ? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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