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Ancient 45k yo Siberian is not what you think!!!
I explained to Lioness some time ago. The Siberian did NOT carry yDNA hg-R1. I was trying to find the study and could not . But the stars are in my favor. Here is this NEW research paper that confirms what I said. You owe me a dollar Lioness.
--- Reconstructing genetic history of Siberian and Northeastern European populations - Emily H.M. Wong
Quote(s) CI: 28%–48%) of their ancestry to Ust’-Ishim’s lineage (Fig. 6; Supplemental Fig. S14). In agreement with this, the D-statistics analysis (Fig. 5C; Supplemental Figs. S13C, S15) showed that Ust’-Ishim had higher genetic affinity with East Asians and Siberians, particularly Eastern Siberians, THAN with modern Europeans. This was also supported by the Y haplotype analysis. ***Previously***, the ancient Siberian Ust’-Ishim (Fu et al. 2014) was thought to belong to the K2 Y-Chromosome clade, which is ancestral to haplogroup R (a Y-Chromosome clade extremely common in Europe), haplogroup Q (common among Native Americans and certain Siberians populations), haplogroup N (common in Siberia and Northeastern Europe), and haplogroup O (common in East Asia). However, we observed that Ust’-Ishim had a single derived SNP on Y-Chromosome specific to the NO branch (hg19 coordinate Chr Y 7,690,182) (Supplemental Fig. S12). This branch is associated with Siberians and some Northeastern European groups, as well as East Asians. Therefore, unlike previous claims, Ust’-Ishim’s haplogroup most likely belongs to a more recent NO clade rather than to the more diverged K2 clade. Based on these lines of evidence, we conclude that Ust’-Ishim contributed more ancestry to the East Asian and Siberian populations than to modern Europeans or Native Americans.
xyyman Member # 13597
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Oh! And by the way. MA-1 is R/Q not R1 See Fig 4
the lioness, Member # 17353
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Oh! And by the way. MA-1 is R/Q not R1 See Fig 4
a 45,000-year-old Siberian Ust’-Ishim11,
a 24,000-year-old Siberian Mal’ta boy (MA-1)
Haplogroup P-M45 (P1) – the immediate ancestor of both Haplogroups Q and R
R/Q is before R1 even existed.
R-M207 is the basal R.
It later split to R1 and R2
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Also remember diversity + frequency suggest origin
Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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Interesting.
In agreement with this, the D-statistics
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We combined these data sets with additional 32 modern-day and 46 ancient human genomes to reconstruct genetic histories of several indigenous Northern Eurasian populations. We found that Siberian and East Asian populations shared 38% of their ancestry with a 45,000-yr-old Ust’-Ishim individual who was previously believed to have no modern-day descendants. Western Siberians trace 57% of their ancestry to ancient North Eurasians, represented by the 24,000-yr-old Siberian Mal'ta boy MA-1. Eastern Siberian populations formed a distinct sublineage that separated from other East Asian populations ∼10,000 yr ago.
xyyman Member # 13597
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Several things determine origin. Diversity, frequency of unique haplotypes, presence of ancestral lineage, position in the haplotree, age, yes FREQUENCY also, geography, etc. Why Am I so right most times? I understand this.and these geneticist do also but they are not about the TRUTH. The goal is first the maintenance Euro dominance through the “published papers”, mainly racialism(not racism).. In my view racialism is in the belief there are races while racism is the hatred of someone from the now conceived socio constructed “race”. Without race there can be no racism therefore no dominance.
What would these white Euros think if they knew they carry 70% modern Sub-Saharan genes, Lazaridis et al and Rosenberg . Keep in mind OLD Africans are the San, Twa . ……..and yes Berbers. That is why Canary carry such a high frequency of La Brana. Higher than YRI.
Do you think they will take their kids to the Smithsonian to see their Black ancestors the Neanderthals or a dark brown skinned Otzi? Or a Black European La Brana? Europeans love delusion and fantasy. Lol!
Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Several things determine origin. Diversity, frequency of unique haplotypes, presence of ancestral lineage, position in the haplotree, age, yes FREQUENCY also, geography, etc. Why Am I so right most times? I understand this.and these geneticist do also but they are not about the TRUTH. The goal is first the maintenance Euro dominance through the “published papers”, mainly racialism(not racism).. In my view racialism is in the belief there are races while racism is the hatred of someone from the now conceived socio constructed “race”. Without race there can be no racism therefore no dominance.
What would these white Euros think if they knew thy carry 70% modern Sub-Saharan genes, Lazaridis et al and Rosenberg . Keep in mind OLD Africans are the San, Twa . ……..and yes Berbers. That is why Canary carry such a high frequency of La Brana. Higher than YRI
1) They would lose their mind.
2) The entire white supremacy establishment and ideology would crumble.
quote:According to the current data East Africa is home to nearly 2/3 of the world genetic diversity independent of sampling effect. Similar figure have been suggested for sub-Saharan Africa populations [1]. The antiquity of the east African gene pool could be viewed not only from the perspective of the amount of genetic diversity endowed within it but also by signals of uni-modal distribution in their mitochondrial DNA (Hassan et al., unpublished) usually taken as an indication of populations that have passed through ‘‘recent’’ demographic expansion [33], although in this case, may in fact be considered a sign of extended shared history of in situ evolution where alleles are exchanged between neighboring demes [34].
Thereal Member # 22452
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Xy racism has nothing to necessarily to do with racial hatred,its power difference between groups as whites do what they do because no one is contesting on the scale which they produce these papers and everything else.
Ish Gebor Member # 18264
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quote:Originally posted by Thereal: Xy racism has nothing to necessarily to do with racial hatred,its power difference between groups as whites do what they do because no one is contesting on the scale which they produce these papers and everything else.
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