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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cass/: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by beyoku: [qb] @Cass - Here is another one for you: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-face-of-prehistoric-european-modern-humans.266766/ [QUOTE] it seems that during the Ice Age anatomically modern European humans did not fit the Nordic ideal of tall, blonde, and gracile. One reason I posted the image of the skull of K14 in the post below is that even without professional background in analysis of skeletal morphology it is visually obvious that this individual was rather robust. There’s a reason that it was apparently termed “Australoid” by earlier anthropologists. The native people of Australia and Papua are among the most robust humans alive today. In contrast other populations have gone through a great deal of gracilization, especially over the last 10,000 years. What about the coloring? I couldn’t find a reference in Seguin-Orlando et al. to any analysis of the functions of the genome, but in Anne Gibbons’ piece in Science she states that K14 was ” a short, dark-skinned, dark-eyed man.” I doubt she would say this unless she knew from the research team what the genotype of this individual was/QUOTE] Nearly all of those Ancient Europeans have the ancestral state for skin color = BROWN. These are your ancestors. This is not to go Afro-Loon mode and argue your ancestors were "Black" with a recent association to sub Saharan africa. No, but rather the gracialized phenotype of today is somewhat NEW as is the ligher skin tones of the region, The genetic affinity on the other hand is quite old......as shown by European remains going back some 40 thousand years. You are smart enough to know this. You are doing yourself a disservice by holding on so long to outdated ideas of craniometry while not understanding populations genetics. [/qb][/QUOTE]I've heard this argument before, basically it says morphometrics is a poor indicator for the determination of ancestral-descendant relationships between the Upper Palaeolithic/Mesolithic vs. later Holocene because there were significant [i]in situ[/i] craniofacial changes during the Early-to-Late Neolithic, i.e. a reduction in robusticity, jaws, toothsize reduction etc. I perfectly get that and we should not expect descendants to look 100% like their ancestors many millennia ago because of micro-evolutionary changes. My point though is Upper Palaeolithic/Mesolithic skulls are [b]closest[/b] to modern populations native to their regions, when compared to populations from other regions - providing a large number of cranial measurements are taken. Also I've always said the inhabitants of Europe were mostly brown skinned until the late Holocene, although I probably underestimated since they were somewhat darker than "olive". November, 2011 [QUOTE]Originally posted by cassiterides: The ancestral Upper Paleolithic Caucasoid (e.g. Cro-Magnon) population was [b]olive skinned[/b].[/QUOTE]Since 2013 I became more cautious about the term "Caucasoid" hence I now highlight it with [b]"[/b]; I prefer to now access things using the more local 28 populations samples (e.g. Norse, Zulu, Tolai) in Howells' craniometric data set and FORDISC, similarly Howells' himself came to do the exact same thing for example compare his early books to his more recent and you will see the [b]"[/b] added to Caucasoid/Negroid/Mongoloid in his final works. I'm not though going to get too worked up on labels, since these still capture variation and everyone knows the distinction between these "types" as craniometric means. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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